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Unread 03-30-2013, 10:42 PM   #81
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Where that one is listed as a PT and not a L1 (which it in fact is) we may never know the exact number of Grade 1 hammerless Parkers made with Laminated Steel barrels. Twist Steel barrels are what was used for composit barrels. The Parker Steel fluid steel barrels was, to the best of my knowledge, the only other barrel steel used on the Grade 1 hammerless guns. I haven't looked but The Parker Story may list some with Laminated Steel barrels. What does the top rib legend say about the barrel steel on this one?
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The legend has the word laminated written on it. This was an ebay gun sold in seperate pieces. When I looked up the number in serialization book and it was listed as twist, I was not sure the pieces were number matching. But they are. Now the only thing not original to the gun will be the stock if we can find one to fit. The stock heads are shaped differently, early verses later production.
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Lost Parker barrels 87131 They will be Bernard and thirty inches in length. 30"

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David and Dean, the "authors" put a note in the Grade 1 section about Laminated Steel barrels listed in the stock books as PT grade. In the Grade 1 20 gauge Twist section, they noted that 20 twenty gauge Laminated Steel guns were listed as PT but noted in the stock books as having Laminated Steel barrels. I found this note after adding one of these Laminated Steel guns to my collection a few years ago. My gun is an all original very early 20 gauge in the 70s, a sweet gun with pits in the bores. The rib legend is "Laminated Steel".
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Thanks Bill - that's some good detective work.
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You must mean in the 70000 serial number range and not 1870. Thanks for the imput. Dave
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Right, there were no hammerless Parkers in the 1870's.
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Yes, my little baby is in the 70,000 series, made in 1892. According to the SB, it is a real early hammerless 20. 71,179 was ordered January 15, 1892 by Salem G. LeValley in Buffalo, NY. It is a PH 20, 28" barrels bored full and full. By 1915, it was in Salisbury, MD and was sent back for a restock. It was still in Maryland when I found it. LeValley was a gun and sporting goods dealer in Buffalo, died in 1903 at age 61.
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Bill and Dean, You guys are obviously in an area where more parkers exist then I am. And you also have a lot more time involved. So, how often do you see a hammerless laminated gun? Looking in the serialization book shows very few small bore laminated of any type parker. Dave
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This is the first one I have ever seen, smallbore or not smallbore. No one is in a hotbed of Parkers unless they use the internet or go to some good gun shows. You have to get out there.
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