410 Repro’s - Page 6

edgarspencer · 01-25-2022, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Baehman

Logically speaking, you'd assume that the 0000-frame Repros should measure 12/16" between the firing pins. It has been mentioned in this forum a few times that it is thought the 4/0-frame Repros measure the same 13/16" spacing as the 000-frame orig. Parker Bros. frames, similar to why do the 1/2-frame Parkers at 1 1/16" measure the same as the 1-frames? No logical explanation, they just do.

Greg, I don't claim to be a logical person, but my wife tells me I'm lucky to have married one. She can't help me here, though.
If an '0' frame pin spacing is 1.00", and a '00' frame pin spacing is 15/16', then why is a '000' frame not 7/8" (14/16") ? If it was 7/8", then, logically, wouldn't a '0000' frame fall right into place at 13/16" ?

David Noble · 01-26-2022, 01:53 AM

Two things that really stick me in the eye when looking at this 0000 frame gun, especially the photo of the top lever, is that the top tang does not have the “bank note” style scroll engraving along its edges. And secondly the dolls head engraving is just crosshatch instead of scroll.

Dean Romig · 01-26-2022, 07:24 AM

I don’t recall ever seeing scroll engraving on a Repro doll’s head. This is Kathy’s little Skeet Repro. It’s not a .410 though.

Maybe the scroll engraving there was on the BHE’s and A1-S…

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Wild Skies · 01-26-2022, 08:17 AM

Yes Dean, the engraving of the doll's head on BHE and A-1 Special Parker Reproductions is indeed different from the cross-hatches as seen on the DHE-grade.

The first pic below is a 20ga. Parker Reproduction BHE on a 0-frame, it is Parker Repro B-grade throughout. You'll notice the Repro B-grade style engraved top lever, doll's head and barrel wedges.

The second pic below is the same gun shown previously in this thread, a 4/0-frame BHE .410 with DHE-style engraving, a BHE-style engraved top lever, BHE wood and DHE barrels.

EDIT: For comparison purposes the middle pic was added to show an original Parker Bros. 12ga. BHE.

Dean Romig · 01-26-2022, 08:26 AM

Thanks Greg.

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Jean Swanson · 01-26-2022, 09:54 AM

I checked on my statement (# 50) this am & I wa wrong, the pictured frames are the same size.

Bill Murphy · 01-26-2022, 04:36 PM

Thanks Allan. Refer to post #42. McCormack and I had a display at Baltimore a few years ago where 00, 000, and 0000 frame .410s in grades up to A-1 Special as I recall, were displayed. However, I never measured the pin separation until Geoffroy bared a 0000 frame gun for me at Allentown years ago. I had a preproduction BHE .410 in my hands thanks to Repro rep Ray Stone, but I'm not entirely sure that gun had the same pin separation as a production 0000 frame, and anyhow, I didn't measure it. OK, the truth is in courtesy of Allan, 13/16" separation on the 0000 .410.