LC Smith 10 gauge

[6pt-Sika]

The fellow I got this Smith from has a bunch of stuff he "says" he wants to sell . Including some Parkers and more Smiths . I am hoping he'll have a decent Parker 10 I can acquire at a decent but fair price .

He brought this one in yesterday with a bunch of other stuff that "his son" he said hadn't taken care of .

He claims to have about 80 Lugers he wants us to move for him . Not exactly my thing but I wouldn't mnd a decent DWM from the WWI time period for my father .

He brought in what would have been a really nice Browning Safari on the FN action in 7mm Rem Mag . But by the time he got it to us the rust was a bit much !

This Smith was sitting in the rack and at first i thought it was just a 12 . He also brought in a old "Sloan's Spanish" 10 gauge in pretty sad shape . I was messing with that thinking I might be able to salvage it for some buckshot or whatever . And then I got to looking at the Smith and the Sloan gun was cast aside !

[6pt-Sika]

Okay i just reviewed the Blue Book and it says ,

Quality 0 started in 1895

Quality 1 started in 1892

So as you said mine has to be Quality 2 !

I am glad to see the prices for the three grades in this book are pretty much the same so atleast I didn't screw the guy !

[Roundsworth]

Very nice! I wonder if this is an actual 'Lyman Cornelius Smith' gun. I believe that was about the time he sold out and moved on to typewriters and such.

[Craig Larter]

Grade 0 and 1 were made by LC Smith in Fulton NY, your gun proceeds that period it is Syracuse NY produced and it is a QUALITY 2 gun not a GRADE 2 Fulton produced gun. The grade numbering system changed after the company moved to Fulton. The Blue Book must only list Fulton era guns.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Craig Larter

Grade 0 and 1 were made by LC Smith in Fulton NY, your gun proceeds that period it is Syracuse NY produced and it is a QUALITY 2 gun not a GRADE 2 Fulton produced gun. The grade numbering system changed after the company moved to Fulton. The Blue Book must only list Fulton era guns.

Nope it lists both .

And you are correct it says Quality 2 .

According to the "Blue Book" the gun I have seriel numbers to 1890 , but when one reads deeper into the "Syracuse Style" guns it say by seriel number this gun was most likely made in Fulton also .

It also shows the "Quality 0 and 1" in the same 1886-1895 grouping .

The Blue Book says ;

Syracuse guns seriel number;
16,000-16,999
18,000-20,999
22,000-23,500

And Fulton guns ;
30,000-40-334

It calls all of these as "Syracuse style guns" .

To further in this grouping they show

Quality 0 new 1895
Quality 1 new 1892
Quality 2
Quality 3
down to Quality 7

They also say Quality 4-7 a total of 550 produced .

[6pt-Sika]

The Blue Book also claims they made some 8 gauge guns from 1892-1913 I'd be intrested to know approx how many of those they produced !

[StubTwist]

Not many 8's. I think 23?

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Frank Cronin

Not many 8's. I think 23?

Well that settles it !

I'll most likely never get a Parker 8 gauge hammerless , looks about 99.9% sure thing I'll never get a LC Smith 8 gauge and about 2000% that I'll never get a Colt 1883 8 gauge

[charlie cleveland]

i know that there was over32 of the lc smith 8 ga made but i bet the number is even higher...charlie

[Bill Murphy]

Eight gauge Parkers are not hard to find, they are only hard to pay for. Smith eights are hard to find and hard to pay for.