Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums Parker Reproductions

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Single Trigger Opinions
Unread 06-23-2017, 09:21 PM   #1
Member
Sam Casey
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 20
Thanks: 33
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts

Default Single Trigger Opinions

Thinking of buying a high condition 20ga ST PR. Understand many of them tend to "double". Any sense what odds are of getting a "doubler". Assuming the worst, is Bachelder Shop best in MI to correct?
Sam Casey is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-24-2017, 09:42 AM   #2
Member
Wild Skies
PGCA Member
 
Greg Baehman's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,236
Thanks: 1,142
Thanked 3,603 Times in 984 Posts

Default

The notion that many of them tend to double, IMO, has been blown way out of proportion. There has even been a story floating around for years that the original single trigger Remington Parker that was used as the model for the Winchester/Olin-Kodensa craftsmen to clone had doubled. These new Parkers were so faithful to this original Parker that they doubled, too.

It's a fact that some Parker Repros have doubled, but a simple cleaning of the trigger mechanism has solved the issue in many of these cases. It's also a fact that the majority of single trigger Parker Repros have functioned flawlessly for their owners.

Here's what I would do if considering a Repro (or any other make of double) with a single trigger: I would tell the seller that I will purchase the gun at the mutually agreed upon price, but with a contingency that I can shoot the gun at a couple of rounds of 5-Stand or Skeet to ensure the gun functions properly in all respects including trigger pulls, ejectors, POI, etc. If the seller won't allow shooting of the gun then I would insist on a warranty. If no warranty is offered, I would look elsewhere.
__________________
Wild Skies
Since 1951
Greg Baehman is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to Greg Baehman For Your Post:
Unread 06-24-2017, 10:15 AM   #3
Member
C.O.B.
Forum Associate
 
Rich Anderson's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 6,072
Thanks: 2,217
Thanked 6,320 Times in 2,082 Posts

Default

I have had several of the reproductions in both 20 and 28 and NEVER had an issue with the trigger doubling. I have several original Parkers with SST and haven't had a problem with them either. I wouldn't let the SST feature deter you from a purchase.
__________________
There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter...Earnest Hemingway
Rich Anderson is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Rich Anderson For Your Post:
Unread 06-24-2017, 07:18 PM   #4
Member
B. Dudley
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Brian Dudley's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,550
Thanks: 476
Thanked 17,422 Times in 4,595 Posts

Default

If one doubles it is likely just in need of a cleaning. Simple as that. The only other issue i have heard of is a few guns have some cast parts in the mechanism that just need some polishing up. But that is a rare occurance.
__________________
B. Dudley
Brian Dudley is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Brian Dudley For Your Post:
Visit Brian Dudley's homepage!
Unread 06-24-2017, 09:40 PM   #5
Member
Wilmurt
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Tom Jay's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 517
Thanks: 314
Thanked 807 Times in 190 Posts

Default

I have 3 PR's, 20/28/12, all with single triggers and never had an issue. Granted the 28ga. I have just bought, but put 100 rounds through it today with no problems. The 20ga I bought new in the mid-80's and never had a misfire. Whatever you buy and not knowing how the gun was previously used since new, you'd be wise to spend a few bucks to get it cleaned.
Tom Jay is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Tom Jay For Your Post:
Unread 06-24-2017, 10:45 PM   #6
Member
Big D
PGCA Member
 
John Dallas's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,284
Thanks: 462
Thanked 3,597 Times in 1,550 Posts

Default

I'm sure not a Parker Repro guy, for sure, but I have heard from several sources that the lubricant used in the Japanese factory gummed up if unused, therefore guns which have been stored away as "New, unfired" may be the guns most susceptible to the malfunctions
__________________
"Striving to become the man my dog thinks I am"
John Dallas is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to John Dallas For Your Post:
Unread 06-24-2017, 11:22 PM   #7
Member
Roundsworth
PGCA Member
 
Mark Landskov's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,452
Thanks: 1,513
Thanked 561 Times in 311 Posts

Default

My 20 gauge SST had an issue with a cast part, as Brian mentioned above. Dewey Vicknair corrected the problem. Dewey said that there was no congealed/hardened grease to blame.
__________________
GMC(SW)-USN, Retired
'Earnest Will'
'Desert Shield'
'Desert Storm'
'Southern Watch'
Mark Landskov is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Mark Landskov For Your Post:
Unread 06-25-2017, 12:17 AM   #8
Member
Jim McKee
PGCA Lifetime
Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 389
Thanks: 1,339
Thanked 467 Times in 150 Posts

Default

Last year I purchased a Parker Reproduction 12 b with a single trigger. I was concerned about how well it would function.
After shooting several hundred rounds over a period of a year, I have found that it works just like it is supposed to work- No Problems with it functioning properly.
I would buy a Parker single trigger shotgun again!
If you buy one, you will enjoy it!!
Jim
Jim McKee is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Jim McKee For Your Post:
Unread 06-25-2017, 08:52 AM   #9
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 15,525
Thanks: 6,119
Thanked 8,786 Times in 4,718 Posts

Default

Mark, (Roundsworth) has the answer and the name of the gunsmith who knows what the problem is. Apparently, it is not the grease as Mark says.
Bill Murphy is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Bill Murphy For Your Post:
Unread 06-25-2017, 06:55 PM   #10
Member
William Stevenson
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 76
Thanks: 15
Thanked 57 Times in 15 Posts

Default

I shoot five ST Reproductions in all gauges, two of the five have given me trouble. The 12 ga started refusing the second shot about 10% of the time, had it fixed by the Miller single trigger co. They repaired the origional trigger, said someone with limited knowledge had worked on it before My 16 ga (Kriegoff barrels) started doubling the first time I used the barrel selector, sent it to Larry DelGreco and sons for repair. Turned out someone had messed with the sears and selector so Larry replaced a sear and made the selector work. He said he has fixed several dozen ST's and doubling is the most common problem. The single trigger problems I've had were caused by others with not enough Experience working on Parker Reproductions.
These guns have complex trigger mechanisms and need experienced Parker gunsmiths to tune them up. Reproductions can be a pain to maintain but they are so delightful to shoot the effort is worthwhile. The 28ga and 16ga are my favorites.
William Stevenson is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to William Stevenson For Your Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:49 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2023, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.