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Old 08-17-2017, 03:47 PM   #31
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I'm sure many guys already know, but for those of you who don't, Promo is the same as Red Dot only cheaper. Use the same data as for RD but weigh your loads, they may vary a bit. I've used it for years after a trap shooter advised me about it. I don't think there's a cheaper powder out there. Just paid $101/8 lbs - bought two of them.
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:37 PM   #32
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Clay Dot is supposed to be a cleaned up version of Red Dot and is also very reasonably priced. I have been using it for the last two years. INHO
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I'm sure many guys already know, but for those of you who don't, Promo is the same as Red Dot only cheaper. Use the same data as for RD but weigh your loads, they may vary a bit. I've used it for years after a trap shooter advised me about it. I don't think there's a cheaper powder out there. Just paid $101/8 lbs - bought two of them.
You got a heck of a price then !

I just checked Jerrys dealer price and it's $126 for an 8 pounder and an 8 of Red Dot is $135 . And of course that doesn't include shipping and HAZMAT . Now Greentop the local candy store sells an 8 of Clay Dot for $150 plus tax retail and an 8 of Red Dot at $156 plus tax .

So what they sold it to you was 20% below dealer cost from distributers without shipping and any other fees .
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Life is wonderful. Our club buys all our reloading supplies from Dawsons and they give us a bit lower price than what's listed.
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Clay Dot is supposed to be a cleaned up version of Red Dot and is also very reasonably priced. I have been using it for the last two years. INHO
I use Claydot in 7/8 oz 12 gauge loads. What is your load for a 10?
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Responding to William Davis's post, you should be aware that his experience with Green Dot and Unique and unburned powder is a result of unacceptable low pressure. In light 1 1/8 ounce loads in a ten gauge, fast powders are the correct choice. Red Dot is a much better choice than Green Dot or Unique, both of which are way too slow burning. Mr. Davis's post describing a Unique load that is a higher pressure than a Red Dot load must include another component that causes that odd phenomenon. Craig Larter should comment on my comments.
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Bill I never tried Unique in the 10 my comment was from reading Alliants 12 G data, they showed much larger charges around 25 grains having higher pressure than 19 of Red Dot in 12 G. Equal charge weight considering slower burn no doubt Unique has less pressure than Red Dot.

No matter that 1 1/8 oz 19 gr Red Dot load with a 16 G fiber wad in the bottom of Remington SP 10 wads is the one for short 10 target loads. I used it at the Fall Southern in my Parker 10 Hammer and today on Clays in the Ithaca 10. Easy shooting clean burn nice breaks. Now that we have hard data on pressure no need for me to look further.

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Nice day so the Greener 10 ga. hammer gun got out on the clays course again. When I did my part the clays were vaporized, not just crushed! This is not an especially tight chocked gun and the shot string seems to be pretty short as a whole bunch of shot gets to the target at the same time. One can not do better than the 1 1/8 oz shot and 19 grains of Red Dot for target use. I mixed in a few 1 1/4 oz loads with SR 4756 and they perform as well. Just way too much fun shooting these short ten's. Mix of Cheddite, Federal and Remington hulls all work well. Both of my 10's love these loads and generate interest when I have them out. As William stated there is really no reason to look further that the Red Dot load for general target use. The heavier load is great for longer clays and reaching out is not a problem. I can save my SR 7625 for the 12 and 16 ga. hammer guns.
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