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Unread 09-15-2015, 04:39 PM   #61
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i would like to SAY A BIG THANK YOU for the loads i have been trying everywhere to find some i have tried other forums with no luck . i would like to thank the administrator who sorted out my login in problems for me once again THANK YOU ALL for the help i received as in the UK we have hardly any data at all and have to rely on you chaps over in the US for help cheers
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You are of course welcome

A grand thanks would be some photos of your days on the foreshore and the grey lags or pinkfeet geese taken with your new found knowledge.

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1 1/8 oz 7 1/2. Remington SP 10 wad half inch 16 g fiber wad inside the SP 10. Either 19 Red Dot or 22 Green Dot is my standard Clay Target short 10 load. Unique being slower powder perhaps a grain or two more. Split the fiber wad to make the stack come out right for fold crimping.

Hunting, depending on the bird, I think I will go 1 1/4 oz and a very small increase in the Green Dot charge. Am ordering a bag of # 7 shot and working up loads to to use on Crows. 7 and 1 1/4 exceeds limits at most Clay target clubs, and lot more than needed for targets.

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Got it, are most of the lighter loads for the 2 7/8 hull length?

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Got it, are most of the lighter loads for the 2 7/8 hull length?
all the loads here are for the 2 7/8 ths inch shells
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Unread 11-19-2015, 11:48 AM   #66
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I saw that after I enlarged the print on the copier, but thank you. I cranked out my first bp load for the short 10 last nite. One of Sherman Bell's. My gun isn't a Parker but an Ithaca Flues model with Damascus barrels and the 6000 range of pressure is sure what I was looking for. RW
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1 1/8 oz 7 1/2. Remington SP 10 wad half inch 16 g fiber wad inside the SP 10. Either 19 Red Dot or 22 Green Dot is my standard Clay Target short 10 load. Unique being slower powder perhaps a grain or two more. Split the fiber wad to make the stack come out right for fold crimping.

Hunting, depending on the bird, I think I will go 1 1/4 oz and a very small increase in the Green Dot charge. Am ordering a bag of # 7 shot and working up loads to to use on Crows. 7 and 1 1/4 exceeds limits at most Clay target clubs, and lot more than needed for targets.

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Scott and I shoot a lot of crows, hundreds for each of us each fall. We have tried shot sizes from 4's to 8's over the years. If you want the most effective shell for a crow at any range your shotgun can shoot go with #6 in any trap or skeet loading. You will see a noticable difference. Far more dead in the air folds over the smaller shot including #7.
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No doubt about it # 6 will kill at distance. When I hunted Ducks with Lead # 6 was all I used. Problem with the 6's for me is shooting light shot loads in SxS's I don't think I get enough pellets. Look at it this way, all from internet charts. nothing actually counted

For my 12 g loads

1 oz load # 7 296 pellets
1 oz load # 6 222 pellets

For my 10 G loads

1 1/8 oz # 7 331 pellets
1 1/8 oz # 6 308 pellets

Of course I could bump the 12's to 1 1/8 and 10's to 1 1/4. I have some RST 1 1/4 # 6 and they recoil too much in my 9 1/4 lb Ithaca Super 10. Not so bad in my 10 lb Parker Hammer 10. Never liked Factory 1 1/8 oz in 12 G Parkers either.

Good thing about loading is you can get it exactly like you want it.

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No doubt about it # 6 will kill at distance. When I hunted Ducks with Lead # 6 was all I used. Problem with the 6's for me is shooting light shot loads in SxS's I don't think I get enough pellets. Look at it this way, all from internet charts. nothing actually counted

For my 12 g loads

1 oz load # 7 296 pellets
1 oz load # 6 222 pellets

For my 10 G loads

1 1/8 oz # 7 331 pellets
1 1/8 oz # 6 308 pellets

Of course I could bump the 12's to 1 1/8 and 10's to 1 1/4. I have some RST 1 1/4 # 6 and they recoil too much in my 9 1/4 lb Ithaca Super 10. Not so bad in my 10 lb Parker Hammer 10. Never liked Factory 1 1/8 oz in 12 G Parkers either.

Good thing about loading is you can get it exactly like you want it.

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Not to pick on you William but I always find it humorous when a fellow crow hunter worries about pattern density when using #6. Trust me they will dump them consistently at any range you dare to shoot, even with open chokes. With tight chokes they are never getting though it.

Here are patterns through a Remington 10ga 1894 and 12ga 1900, these are both 1 1/8 ounce loads at 40 yards. The 12ga has a mere .024 of choke. Scott has a picture somewhere of a 7/8 ounce pattern of #6 on the life size vitals of a crow at 40 yards. If centered the bird would not survived.

PS. Your pellet counts are off, at least for #6. Most charts cite 225 per ounce. My hand count for pattern test below was 253 for 1 1/8 ounce.
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[QUOTE=William Davis;182061]Pete
Problem with the 6's for me is shooting light shot loads in SxS's I don't think I get enough pellets.
I have shot 100's of crows over the years with 7/8th oz of 6's out on my 20 ga. For years that's all i shot when crow hunting. so i am sure i have shot 2000 crow with that load alone. There are plenty of pellets in 1 oz of 6's out of the 10 or 12 ga. i have killed close to 500 this year alone with above loads, for one shot size stay with 6's ! check out some of Pete and my parker hunting pics under my profile It will show some of our crow hunting trips
what ever you shoot at crows , have fun and good luck!!
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