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Unread 01-19-2013, 11:52 PM   #1
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Not so much a RELOADING question, but I thought this might be the best thing. I took my 12g 1880 grade 2 lifter with 32" barrels down to the club today and shot a round of skeet with it. First time shooting it much. I was shooting RST lite 1oz loads of 7 shot. Factory loads. I noticed a lot of unburned powder in the bores. What might cause that?
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Possibly the ambient temperature and how the powder and/or primer were affected by it?
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Not so much a RELOADING question, but I thought this might be the best thing. I took my 12g 1880 grade 2 lifter with 32" barrels down to the club today and shot a round of skeet with it. First time shooting it much. I was shooting RST lite 1oz loads of 7 shot. Factory loads. I noticed a lot of unburned powder in the bores. What might cause that?
I had the same problem shooting 16ga RST lite shells at the Vintage Cup last year. I had powder build up in the latch to the point I couldn't close the gun. I had to us my pocket knife to get the powder out before I could continue to shoot. The weather was nice, so I don't think it had anything to do with the powder not burning?
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Our friends at RST make a great shell but they do burn a bit dirty. Cold weather will make this a bit worse.
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I have not really noticed this issue as bad in other guns. I doubt that the gun would have anything to do with it. It could be the weather. It was colder yesterday.
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An oversize bore could contribute. This is not uncommon in old guns that have honed bores. A larger bore allows gas blow-by, reduces burn confinement, and leaves residue... especially with some powders like Red Dot or Clay Dot.
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John's answer would be my choice. RST low pressure loads, together with the large bores, (.750 on some Parkers), contributes to less complete burning of the powder coating. I doubt that the incomplete burning extends to the explosive components of the powder. Call Alex and ask.
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I have also noticed this with my early parkers with oversized bores. So I will assume the bore size is a major factor.
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Good answers. To some degree some unburned powder is the small price you pay with low P loads, especially in the cold. When you shoot in extreme cold keep your shells inside your coat somehow and don't pile your extras on a table. My bbls are a disaster when I shoot up here at -25deg - they look just like black powder burn. I try to put a factory target load through each bbl as my last shot to clean them out.
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Mr. Flanders has hit the nail on the primer. The low pressure loads don't burn as efficiently as their counterparts.
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