PB for 16 gauge

[Kensal Rise]

Originally Posted by Mark Garrett

gman


The Red dot load post early is more than likely not low pressure if that is what you are looking for . Shotshells don,t show signs of pressure like metallic cartridges do .

You may, or may not, be correct here. But that's beside the point. I ought to have Armbrust test my Red Dot load to be sure of things. But I'm willing to bet that it's very close to the stats on your 14 gr Green Dot load, however...

[Harold Pickens]

Mark,
those 7/8oz loads I posted were from your post on the 16 ga forum a few weeks ago. When I saw them, I immeadiately printed them off, as they fit well with what I am trying to load. I will use them as I have been able to pick up a few lbs each of PB and 7625. I am saving my couple pounds of Green Dot for 3/4 oz 20 ga loads. Those Nice shot loads will be filed just in case I ever need to shoot non-tox loads thru the old doubles. Thanks for posting the info for the rest of us.

[Mark Garrett]

Originally Posted by John Campbell

You may, or may not, be correct here. But that's beside the point. I ought to have Armbrust test my Red Dot load to be sure of things. But I'm willing to bet that it's very close to the stats on your 14 gr Green Dot load, however...

John you may be right, I am sure it is great light load . I would like to see the data. My guess is going to be 8500 psi plus .

I do have some Red Dot data for a 7/8oz load in the Rem hull using 13.3 gr RD and pressure is around 11300 psi . In a straight walled hull and using 3/4 oz pressures should be a lot lower , I don't think it will be below 6000 psi . but I have been wrong before . Ask Tom he should be able to give you close to what it will be.

[Bill Murphy]

In sub 12 gauge loads, Red Dot is unacceptable for "low pressure" loads, even if the shot load is light. I recommend that those who are making their own loads study the "burn rate" chart before they make up loads. Red Dot is for big holes, light shot loads, and strong guns.

[Kensal Rise]

Who am I to counter such sage wisdom. Then again, if you visit the Alliant Powder website, you will find this description for Red Dot:

"Principal Purpose: Light and standard 12 & 16 ga. target loads"

Then there's this load from the 16 Ga Forum:

WW 16 Poly 1 oz. Red Dot 15 Win 209 Rem R-16 1165 10,400 Hercules


Or these:

WW CF 1 oz. Red Dot 15 27 Win 209 Rem R-16 1165 10,900 Hercules

WW CF 1 oz. Red Dot 16.5 30 Win 209 Rem R-16 1165 9,700 HSR

WW CF 1 oz. Red Dot 17.5 32 CCI 109 Rem R-16 1210 9,500 Lyman 3rd


Or this:

Fed 16 Plas 1 oz. Red Dot 16.0 Fed 209 Rem R 16 1165 9,700 Hercules


Thus I apologize for offering a 3/4 oz load that must be ill advised. And retire from this thread.

[Mark Garrett]

Originally Posted by Harold Lee Pickens

Mark,
those 7/8oz loads I posted were from your post on the 16 ga forum a few weeks ago. When I saw them, I immeadiately printed them off, as they fit well with what I am trying to load. I will use them as I have been able to pick up a few lbs each of PB and 7625. I am saving my couple pounds of Green Dot for 3/4 oz 20 ga loads. Those Nice shot loads will be filed just in case I ever need to shoot non-tox loads thru the old doubles. Thanks for posting the info for the rest of us.

Harold glad you can use them , I am hoping to use the LP niceshot load next month during the early teal season .

[Mark Garrett]

Originally Posted by John Campbell

Thus I apologize for offering a 3/4 oz load that must be ill advised. And retire from this thread.

John , that's not case at all, my comments aren't meant to offend . Like I said it is probably a very nice light target load . ( safe for guns that will handle modern pressures ) I just don,t think it is low pressure . For safety sake I would not assume it is LP without seeing test data first.


Those Red dot loads you posted above are old loads that where more than likely measured LUP not PSI . I am sure of it on the 3rd Lyman load , because I looked it up in my book .