red dot powder - Page 2

Daryl Middlebrook · 09-05-2013, 05:05 PM

1 1/8 oz. with red dot in a 16 gauge is a NO NO !!!!!!!! Pressures are waaaay to high.

1 1/8 oz. with red dot in a 12 or a 10 gauge is a good choice.

Double Lab · 09-05-2013, 08:10 PM

I agree with Daryl and John. Even a powder suitable for that load would raise pressure and recoil to a level that would punish you and the gun. I have been loading 3/4oz. in the 16 and I have yet to find a bird, be they feathered or clay, that it would not kill or crush. Sometimes less is better.

Paul Harm · 09-05-2013, 08:15 PM

Carl, it's probably pretty hard to fit a 1 1/8oz load in a 16ga. Maybe with fiber wads. A one oz load will kill about anything you're likely to hunt. If you want something with a bit more punch like for duck, goose, or turkey, get a 12 or 10ga. Good luck - Paul

carl ference · 09-09-2013, 01:31 PM

Gents:
Thanks so much for the info. Seems from your feedback and the material which I have read on several blogs is that RED DOT has it's best application in 12 or 10 GA. I completely agree that R/D with 1 1/8 OZ is not by any means suitable for a 16.

Paul, also appreciate the insight on PROMO. My powder of choice by Gauge over the past several years has been Unique (16), Long Shot (28) and Clays (12). Since it was given to me, the Red Dot has been a mystery and needless to say your collective guidance has helped me tremendously... At this stage of my life I do not want to put myself and my gun into low orbital flight!

Thanks to all,
Carl

Paul Harm · 09-11-2013, 09:08 AM

Promo uses the same data as R/D - but may weigh differently with the same bushing - it must be weighed with a scale. Some claim it burns a little more dirty than R/D but that has never bothered me. After shooting black powder for over 40 years all nitro seems clean to me. My last 8#'s was 80$ compared to 700X going for 105, so if you're shooting a lot it makes a difference.

Kensal Rise · 09-11-2013, 10:55 AM

Red Dot has been around practically since gunpowder was invented. And it's been known as a dirty burning powder for just as long. But... it has always been cheap and available.

The nave in me thinks Hercules had about 12 trainloads of the stuff made up. So, Alliant invented the name "Promo" (as in "promotional") and decided to get rid of some of it under that banner.

Paul Harm · 09-12-2013, 04:58 PM

I've been told it is RD but the grain size isn't as uniform as RD and that's why you have to check each new batch with a scale. Guess they save a little by not keeping as close a tolerance. Dirty, only till the next shot blows the old dirt out and leaves some new. There's some residue left, but not enough to worry about. People wanta talk about dirty barrels, they need to shoot BP - now there's some dirty barrels.