red dot powder

[charlie cleveland]

loaded up12 rounds today in 10 ga of petes listing of useing 19 grains of red dot..and a ounce of bb shot...this is fast becoming my favorite load for plinking at cans..it should be a very good game getter out to 55 yards with the bb shot...i tested the loads at 55 steps the target was a dr pepper can..it would put from 2 to 3 shot in can every time i checked it..believe me it hit the can with plenty of force...a fellow could fire a coupla boxes of these loads and never no he had shot them...i m gonna use my loads to hunt squirl with but a fellow could change the shot size and have a dove round that s perfect and would definely do a big old grouse justice...best part fairly clean burn and easy on them old 100 year old stocks..so if you aint never tried this load i would recommend it very much... i gots say pete lester s the man on this one...charlie

[charlie cleveland]

i meant to say that was a ounce and a 1/8....of the payload... charlie

[J.B. Books]

Charlie it took me some trial and error to learn that 19gr of Red Dot was a sweet spot for the Short Ten with 1 1/8 ounce. I also like 22gr of Green Dot with 1 1/8 ounce. Green Dot has a long history of use by trapshooters for lower felt recoil and tighter patterns for Handicap shooting. My Remington '94 10ga shot 92-93% using Green Dot. You should try that powder too and see if it tightens up your patterns a little.

[charlie cleveland]

will try some green dot when i find some pete..id like to get my parrerns tightened up for sure..but this red dot load is gonna be hard to beat....i think.... charlie

[Paul Harm]

What wad is everyone using? The plastic Rem SP-10 or fiber wads ? I do believe the fiber wads have a lot less recoil.

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Paul Harm

What wad is everyone using? The plastic Rem SP-10 or fiber wads ? I do believe the fiber wads have a lot less recoil.

Fed Hull, Fiochhi primer, 19gr Red Dot, SP10 wad, almost 1/2" 16ga filler wad, 1 1/8 ounce shot, fold crimp. Shoots really well.

[carl ference]

Regarding RED DOT: I am wondering about recipes for 16 GA application. Very little is published. Using a recipe from a long time hunting partner and a cache of once fired Win 16 Gauge AA hulls here is what I reloaded:
Win AA 16 Gauge Hull
Win 209 Primer
Rem SP16 Wad - 1 OZ
14.9 gr Red Dot

The (6) rounds loaded patterned very nicely at 25 yards (IC & MOD) and preformed well on a few clays... addtional guidance would be appreciated along with any thoughts on a
1 1/8 OZ recipe.

Carl

[Kensal Rise]

I would not use Red Dot for 1 1/8 oz loads in the 16. A weight of 1 oz is pushing the limits of this powder in that bore size. But why would you need more than 1 oz of shot for any reason? That's my heavy field load for pheasant in a 12-bore.

[carl ference]

Simply stated certain powders do allow for a 1 1/8 load in 16 gauge... whether it is practical can be be debated, which is not my intent. It seems that Red Dot can be suitable for 1 OZ application. Is there a recommended charge grain value with which you have some experience?

Thanks,
Carl

[Paul Harm]

As of late I've been shooting 17grs of Promo [ same as Red Dot ] and 1 1/16oz of shot in my short 10's. Very enjoyable. Tried the 19gr charge but didn't like it - must be too big of a sissy. And when using fiber wads it's like " no recoil ".