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Unread 07-23-2019, 04:14 PM   #1
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Found this one on an early C Grade Lefever. Pretty cool!
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hmmmmm.... a Spangler signature on a gun with the supposed Loy border work.

Something to rethink.
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hmmmmm.... a Spangler signature on a gun with the supposed Loy border work.

Something to rethink.
Thought the same thing ...
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Looks so much like Loy’s dog’s eyes and muzzle too.





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fine looking gun to me...charlie
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The similarity to Loy's work is astonishing....but I have to admit when I VERY FIRST looked at the photo of the gun, Loy didn't instantly jump to mind, but when I started looking at the components it did...the eyelash borders are just a TINY bit different, the dog depicted not in parallel with the frame seems not Loyish, I definitely can see the eerie similarities.. I wonder if it is a deliberate homage to Loy from one engraver to another....is it possible Spangler was an apprentice to Loy at some point?
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I have two points.

1. This is the first Spangler signature I have ever seen on a Lefever that is outside the main "portrait window." That includes one other C grade. But that said, it does look like his signature.

2. Loy has got to be the most over-attributed of all American engravers. Either because of the spurious "hidden initials in the border engraving" association, or because people haven't seen enough of his signed (i.e. confirmed) work. The snouts on his pointers are UNMISTAKEABLE. No other engraver that I have seen did broad and upturned pointer snouts like he did.

My 2 cents...having no reason to suspect otherwise...it's Spangler's work. I generally judge his by his fluffy, soft light setters.

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One more point on Loy...and this probably applies to any engraver, especially any who worked for as many years as he did. While his work on Lefever's and Ithaca is great, they pale in comparison to what he did on Remington DE and EE's. He simply got better as the years progressed, and the best 1894's are the proof of it.

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Like this...

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Yes to the top picture.
No to the 2nd...it is Glahn's work, based both on style, and production timeframe.

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