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Unread 02-12-2019, 09:55 PM   #1
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I picked up an old parker hammer shotgun over the weekend. If the barrels are judged to be sound enough, I will look to get gun back into shootable form.

The barrels are somewhat silvered out, with hard to see traces of Damascus pattern. The hammers/locks appear to work, and the stock is in reasonable shape.

My main concern is the pitting that resides in the barrels and how to judge if any imperil safe operation of the shotgun. Anyone have any experience on where to start on this project.

Appears to be a grade 2 with a serial number 45364. Appreciate any experiences with checking out this as a restoration candidate.
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Unread 02-12-2019, 10:34 PM   #2
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since you list your location, maybe a member in your area can help you locate someone with the proper evaluation skills

45364 should be a 12ga grade 2 with 30" barrels
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Unread 02-13-2019, 02:21 PM   #3
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Thank you, yes it is. I've got a trip the gunsmith planned. Just thought I would get a bit of wisdom on what to expect to have to do. Gun locks up tight, and barrels ring. The top latch is a shade to the right, but otherwise I think I have a good restoration candidate. Being an older gun, not sure what it's earlier life may mean about the ability to return it to a shooter.
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The top latch is a shade to the right, but otherwise I think I have a good restoration candidate.
A shade to the right is good if you are referring to the opening lever. Would usually indicate less use for a gun that old, if not tampered with.
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Can you post some Pictures?





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A little pitting in the barrel is a good sign that no one has removed any metal from them.
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The lever position on a Parker means little.
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The lever position on a Parker means little.
Excuse me? What does one far to the left mean? Did any gun leave the factory with the lever far to the left? That would mean a lot. A lot of wear, tampered with barrels and/or locking parts, slammed shut hard thousands maybe tens of thousands of times, no lubrication, non-matching parts, and on and on. I would not buy a low grade gun with a lever far to the left due to the cost of correcting by replacing parts, welding, etc. Been there, done that.

You must not have read my post before posting and not noticed the word "usually" and "if not tampered with."

I will just quit posting trying to help someone instead of continually being corrected.
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Interesting comment on barrel pitting. I had not thought of it that way. My concern before buying was whether there might be a pit or two deep enough to render it unsafe to shoot. Also took note of Brian's comment on top lever position, in regards to Parkers. The wood seems to have a little tiger figure on bottom of stock, but uninspiring on main blank. I am surprised it has the standard Parker butt-plate, instead of a skelletal metal one. The engraving is worn a bit, and not as highly detailed as my DH. This will be the first Damascus barrelled gun I have ever owned and am excited by the refinishing potential to bring back the beauty of the pattern.

Will post pictures as soon as I can figure how to transfer them from phone to this page. I am taking it to G.Pfrommer early next week for evaluation, cleaning and consultation on restoration work.
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Hello Jay-

The Grade 2 didn’t have a skeleton buttplate as a standard feature. That became standard on the Grade 3. The wood on a Grade 2 was also generally as you describe - some better, some not so much.
Further, the position of the lever, by itself, is only a clue as to the kind of care the gun received in its life but other aspects, as Jerry mentions, need to be examined and considered as parts of the whole.





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Interesting comment on barrel pitting. I had not thought of it that way. My concern before buying was whether there might be a pit or two deep enough to render it unsafe to shoot. Also took note of Brian's comment on top lever position, in regards to Parkers. The wood seems to have a little tiger figure on bottom of stock, but uninspiring on main blank. I am surprised it has the standard Parker butt-plate, instead of a skelletal metal one. The engraving is worn a bit, and not as highly detailed as my DH. This will be the first Damascus barrelled gun I have ever owned and am excited by the refinishing potential to bring back the beauty of the pattern.

Will post pictures as soon as I can figure how to transfer them from phone to this page. I am taking it to G.Pfrommer early next week for evaluation, cleaning and consultation on restoration work.
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