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Unread 08-14-2019, 04:06 PM   #21
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Lots of C’s had Acme steel barrels. The earliest fluid steel barrel C’s were Titanic, then after Acme barrels began to be used at Parker, they were used early on. In fact Acme steel is the most common C grade fluid steel.

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Acme steel did make it onto some CH grade guns as well.

The tables in TPS do not list any 24" 28g. guns above C grade.
Titanic Steel made the Parker scene in about 1897 and there are a small number of CH (Grade 4) guns with Titanic Steel barrels. After Acme Steel made the scene the choice was narrowed to a choice of Damascus Steel, Bernard Steel (which was nearing its end) and Acme Steel. Those were the standard barrel steels for the Grade 4 Parker.

The barrel steel choices for the Grade 5 (BH) guns of that era were most likely "DD" Damascus and Acme Steel. There are also a very few Grade 5 Parkers with Titanic Steel barrels made before Acme Steel barrels were available.





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I own one of the few listed and lettered D grade 24’s, mine is 20ga. I like it and use it a lot on ruffed grouse and quail. Many people believe that a 24 is too short for them, but not for me.

If you are looking at a costly gun I sure would want to make sure the barrels are not just chopped off , or account for it in cost. It would be very difficult to find another set of 28 ga
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Do your homework. https://stevebarnettfineguns.com/par...-gauge-upgrade

The answer is in the web address.
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Very interesting engraving. Those sure aren't Runge's dogs but the scroll looks like his style.....




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I have the only known 24" twenty-eight gauge Damascus barreled Parker of any grade.

It is a DHE made in 1908 by special order.






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I felt that this was the subject gun that was posted about.

I inspected it closely at the southern. It is very nicely done in nearly all respects. The only thing about it that was a red flag to me was the forend tip... It is from a LEFEVER.
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A made up A 28 ga gun for about 20 grand, and a genuine C 28ga 24 “ for 72 grand. That tells you where collectors are on it but some folks just want a nice looking gun that they can take on a quail hunt and put in the gun rack.
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And that’s OK. Not many can afford $72k for such a Parker while some can aspire to own a Parker that looks about as nice and handles about as nice and shoots just as nice for a whole lot less.
I don’t own any Parkers worth $72k but I’m pretty proud of the ones I do own, and they shoot really well.






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And 24" is the best there is for especially woodcock and also ruffies in hvy cover in my book. My 24" PHE16 is the best woodcock gun I've ever handled.
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