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Unread 02-21-2018, 11:30 AM   #21
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The data sheet that comes with CB-0175 wads shows 16 loads with the Remington hull using 700X. All of them are between 7000psi and 10,600. Using a Cheddite primer and 14.4grs you get 1150fps at 7900psi. The Win primer and 13.7grs gets 1150fps and 7200psi [ the Ched with 13.7 would probably be the same seeing how they're both mild primers ]. I'm not sure how much powder you're using or what hull to get those pressures. You'll know if it's a clean burn by looking down the barrel after shooting. Do you see a lot of unburnt powder ? The only powder I've ever had problems with is 4756. That was at zero temps and 7/8oz loads - something that powder was never intended for. It was a slower burning powder meant for heavy hunting loads. You're not going to hurt your gun with loads under 8000psi. I shoot mine three times a week and never give it a second thought. As far as tight patterns - every gun can react differently to the same loads. The light loads pattern a bit tighter because the shot column is shorter resulting in less deformation of the shot in the bottom of the column when the shell is first ignited. More BB's stay round, the more stay in the pattern. When I first started shooting the clay games after a 30 year lay off, I went back to the 12ga 1 1/8oz load like I always had shot. Got reading some clays magazines and went to 1oz, then 7/8oz, and finally 3/4oz. Every step I'd be looking at how much shot I was loosing, but ya know, it didn't make a difference in how or how many birds were broken. And, it was a lot easier on my wallet and shoulder.
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Unread 02-21-2018, 11:54 AM   #22
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Thanks Paul I will look into that. I only shot it once when it came from Artemis Outfitters. That was RST Shells one down each barrel. I wanted to test it on a factory load in case something happened, it wouldn't be because of my reload. Everyone knows RST are reputable 1st class loads for vintage guns. It patterned great with their 1 oz load . I planning on going to the range just as soon as this rain here in Texas stops. I will take a look in the barrels after a few shots for un-burnt powder. If anything from 7k to 8k is safe I have been way off track. Thanks Again
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For the past 15 years I've put tens of thousands of my 12-gauge, 7/8 ounce, 1200 fps, reloads through my 1937 vintage Fox-Sterlingworth Ejector Skeet & Upland Game Gun. I feel 7/8 ounce is light enough in the 12-gauge with little to no recoil and good skeet patterns. My load is a Remington STS hull, Remington 209P primer, 16.4 Grains of Clays, Remington TGT12S wad (or CB equivalent) and 7/8 ounce shot. About 6300 psi according to the Basic Reloading Manual. For nostalgic smells I do a 7/8 ounce, 1200 fps, load in Federal papers.
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Good to know...Seems although they are old guns they are durable. I to have a Sterlingworth...my first sxs,1929...It has 30 inch barrel full and full so I use it for ducks. My new AE Grade is really light and quick.26 inch barrels ..I cant wait to use it. Although I dont have any clays and about 16pounds of 700 x . I think Im going to use it up first. Thanks for the info
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Dave, are you the one who bought all of Garlands Remington 1984 top lever springs ? If so, I'd like to buy a couple. Paul
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Wasn't this Dave. Wisner's still lists them --

http://www.wisnersinc.com/model/1894...double-barrel/
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Kirk, 4 weight barrels on a Fox AE, what a great gun--what is it choked? I have a "The Sterlingworth Co." pin gun with 4 wt barrels choked cyl/mod as per the old Fox catalog(28 barrels") , It is probably under 7 lbs, the 4 wt marking is quite readable on the barrels, most seem to have been filed off. I wouldn't worry about shooting it esp. with those loads.
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Harold. Yes mine are cylinder and modified. 26 inch. It’s light and beautiful lol. I think so. I was just texting a guy on fb that has dogs. Planning a hunt in the fall. Just found out he has a old fox as well. I plan on using it all I can. Have a good night
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I shoot predominately 7/8 oz loads in my 12 ga's, using the Claybuster 1078 gray wad in Rem Gun Clubs(always easy to find) and in 21/2 " also. Currently trying out Win AA Lite powder--don't think it is available anymore, but I have 4 pounds. Gary and others give good reports on Xtra Lite powder. Where are you planning your hunting trip?--and for what birds?
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My regular Parker Sporting clays load is 7/8 oz # 8 @ 1150 FPS . When I want 1 oz use 7 1/2 either load about ideal for a tight choked gun. Skeet range is nearby and shoot it often, have loaded a fair amount of 3/4 oz with # 9. It performs well but I have to keep different powder wad and shot size on hand. Use up the supply will probably drop the 3/4 oz loads. Can’t detect any difference 3/4 vs 7/8 shooting. Can feel increased recoil with the 1 oz loads.

Felt Recoil is subjective though, lighter gun 3/4 may be an advantage. In any event 3/4 & # 9 is perfectly adequate for skeet targets

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