Short 10 and Red Dot.

[Mike of the Mountain]

Originally Posted by Austin J Hawthorne Jr.

If I ever get around to it I'm going to shoot some of my 10 guage 2 7/8 Peters paper shells. Once I have the empties I'll work up a 1 1/4 oz load of #4 shot with 700 X and roll crimp it. Should be good for woodcock.

You trying to vaporize those little ruddy fellows!!!!! I'd stoke those shells with #9 or #10 shot. That would be the ticket out of the 10g for Woodcock!!

[Austin J Hawthorne Jr.]

How about this....I'll use 1 1/4 oz of BB's, and 1/8 oz. of # 9 shot as a buffer. Actually, I just might try this. I do have some BB's and also # 9 shot. Remember the duplex loads that, I believe, Remington made awhile back......Hmmmm, I wonder what the pattern would look like.

[Mike of the Mountain]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Buffered by #9s!!!! Outstanding!!

[Eric Johanen]

I shot the clays course this morning with both Cheddite hulls and Federal hulls loaded with 19 grains of Red Dot, SP10 wad with a 1/2 inch 16 ga. fiber insert, 1&1/8 oz shot finished with a 6 fold crimp. Excellent results! I will be using these loads as standard for clays in my Greener. I can save the SR 7625 for my low pressure 12 qa. and 16 ga. loads. I'll go to larger size shot for field use. Thank's to whoever dreamed this load up!! The Greener will get much more use now that I can load for it rather than purchase more expensive factory loads.

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Eric Johanen

I shot the clays course this morning with both Cheddite hulls and Federal hulls loaded with 19 grains of Red Dot, SP10 wad with a 1/2 inch 16 ga. fiber insert, 1&1/8 oz shot finished with a 6 fold crimp. Excellent results! I will be using these loads as standard for clays in my Greener. I can save the SR 7625 for my low pressure 12 qa. and 16 ga. loads. I'll go to larger size shot for field use. Thank's to whoever dreamed this load up!! The Greener will get much more use now that I can load for it rather than purchase more expensive factory loads.

That load works great. You mentioned in a previous post about sending it out for testing, did you ever do that?

[Eric Johanen]

I have not done that yet. I've read in other postings that Tom shuts down in the late fall/winter and resumes testing service in spring. I will contact him and send the load off for testing using Cheddite, Federal and Remington hulls. I am interested in data using all 3 hulls. Nice thing about this load is I can use the hulls several times and then get one last hurrah with black powder before tossing them in the barrel. Ran a score of 40 today. 1 bad gun mount, 4 clays shot over and 5 just plain misses. ( I do tend to shoot a different gun almost every time out. They all want their turn!)

[Bill Murphy]

You don't need Armbrust to attest to the safety of that load, as long as it sounds loud enough. However, the difference in the three hulls may be an interesting test. My guess as to pressure is about 7000 psi max.

[Eric Johanen]

Thank's Bill. If they come in 7000 to 7500 psi I'll be real happy. I do want to know psi with these 3 hulls as they are the most common hulls available to reloaders. The Red Dot load is very clean shooting. Just finished clean up after 100+ shots and like what I see. Since it was improved a number of years ago it is very clean. I used the powder years ago for trap and it was a little sooty, not anymore. I do not think it will prove to be punky in cold weather like SR 7625.

[Paul Harm]

Promo is the same as Red Dot but cheaper. It may be a bit dirtier, but then I've never thought of any nitro as dirty after shooting BP for 50 years. You'd still use 19grs, but weigh it to make sure you have 19grs with the same bushing. In 8# containers, Promo is about $20 cheaper than Red Dot.

[Kensal Rise]

The residual crud left by powders such as Red Dot, Promo, etc. can be reduced somewhat by using a magnum type primer. I prefer Federal but CCI 209M is also good. With such primers, the charge may have to be cut by .5 grs or so. Depending upon how close you are to "maximum."