Parker Laminated Steel Barrels and Guns

[Dean Romig]

Very interesting Drew... Is 6490 the order number or the serial number? what is the serial number? One would more expect to see Damascus barrels on a Grade 3 Lifter, but then, the serial number may shed a bit more light on the "why" of laminated Steel on a Grade 3.

Can we presume the J.S to be Stoker?

[Drew Hause]

It's item 1122 http://jamesdjulia.com/auctions/div_....asp?pageREQ=1

[Dean Romig]

A wonderful Parker!

What's with that silly pre auction estimate of $3K - $5K ???

[Autumn Daze]

Yes, That would be John Stokes marking.

[Labowner]

Sure would like to shoot around of sporting clays with that thing.

[Dean Romig]

I'd like to make it my "go to" grouse and woodcock gun.

[winplumber]

Who had the strongest Laminated Steel Barrels ? This all blows my mind ! (whats left of it ) Didnt Parker use imported barrels woulnt they be as strong or weak as English ect ?

[Drew Hause]

Pattern welded (Twist, Crolle Damascus, Laminated Steel) barrel quality (strength and aesthetics) should be assessed based on the overall quality of the gun
I do not believe there is any meaningful difference in strength of any high quality barrel (Twist, Crolle Damascus, Laminated Steel)
https://docs.google.com/document/edi...0KNY8WMIMkdKr0

Frederick Toms' Sporting Guns and Gunpowder, 1896
'Experiments On the Strength of Gunbarrels' starting on p.9
http://books.google.com/books?id=inQ...AJ&pg=PA16&lpg

"These experiments serve to show what a very large margin of strength there is in a good gunbarrel, when ordinary charges are used. They also tend to prove that the brazing process (if properly carried out) does not injure the metal to any appreciable extent. It has frequently been alleged, by opponents of the proof test, that, although the barrels may pass through the proof without any apparent injury, yet the large charge strains the metal to such an extent that the barrels are likely to burst afterwards when used with ordinary charges. The fallacy of this argument appears obvious when the fact is taken into consideration that the barrels which gave way earliest under these tests had withstood the strains of nearly thirty successive trials, the first of which was rather more severe than the definitive proof charge, and the average of the whole was about four times as great as the regulation proof; while the steel barrels were tested forty times, with charges averaging nearly five times as much as the ordinary proof-charge. Taking the cumulative grain test, as calculated in the Birmingham experiments, the strains undergone by each of the two steel barrels were rather over 110 times as great as that of the definitive proof test; and those of the Damascus were rather over 120 times the definitive proof in the case of the barrel that had undergone the brazing process, and nearly 130 times in the barrel that wae not brazed. So that, although the steel barrels showed the greater amount of endurance, the strength of the Damascus was so much in excess of all ordinary requirements that no fear need be felt of their giving way when the work is properly done."

[Parker Bachelder (Brad's Profile)]

I have had the oportunity to Restore most of the various types of laminate barrels. As with twist, most will yield predictable contrast with our standard techniques. The exception is in English Laminate. The type frquently found in graded Lefevers. The contrast is much more subtle and fine grained. It is my opinion that the composites used are a higher quality than standard. This holds true in dent removal, soldering and striking. The metal is very tight grained and devoid of porosity.
I believe that English Laminate tubes were some of the highest quality
available to the American market.

Brad

[winplumber]

I picked up a sxs with hammers this weekend marked Saxton England and the rib has Laminated Steel England would this be the same tubes for the American market ,they have what seems to be English proof marks .