Pigeons.....

[MarketHunter]

The grave is in Elkhart, Illinois.

I'm a buyer for any and all varieties of live pigeon shells should anybody have some for sale.

[todd allen]

My fantasy has been to collect pigeon guns from all makers and eras. A very unrealistic goal, but a fantasy, non-the-less.
I've owned a few good ones, and sampled quite a few others in 5 bird practice races.
A couple of my favorites from the vintage era: A 32" Parker Trap gun A1-Special that was upgraded by Runge/DelGrego, and then the highly modded GHE that I posted earlier.
Another was a Westley Richards side lock that was owned by this guy that made movies. (Milius)
This was my all time favorite Brit target gun, by far!
I highly lusted after that gun, but my finances were in decline, so had to pass.
There are some pictures of that gun somewhere if I could find them.

[mobirdhunter]

If you make the pilgrimage to the grave, you should stop in here:

https://www.wildharecafe-elk-il.com/

[6pt-Sika]

O shot a little twist on boxbirds Saturday a week ago and will this coming Saturday as well . The gentleman putting the thing on is using quail instead of pigeons . It isn’t as easy as I assumed it would be . I’ve only done boxbirds four or five times of which three were with quail . Colombaire however I find a bit easier , but it matters not I’ll shoot either and happy to do so . At these quail deals that second shot isn’t mandatory . But last week I used a Rio pigeon load in the right barrel and a Fiochi nickel plated in the left barrel . This upcoming shoot I may shoot 1 1/8 ounce target loads in the right barrel .

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by todd allen

My fantasy has been to collect pigeon guns from all makers and eras. A very unrealistic goal, but a fantasy, non-the-less.
I've owned a few good ones, and sampled quite a few others in 5 bird practice races.
A couple of my favorites from the vintage era: A 32" Parker Trap gun A1-Special that was upgraded by Runge/DelGrego, and then the highly modded GHE that I posted earlier.
Another was a Westley Richards side lock that was owned by this guy that made movies. (Milius)
This was my all time favorite Brit target gun, by far!
I highly lusted after that gun, but my finances were in decline, so had to pass.
There are some pictures of that gun somewhere if I could find them.

I’ve only used two guns in the ring an actual Parker DH 12 2 frame 32” live bird gun that left the factory safety less and the VHE 12 gauge 1 1/2 frame 32” vent rib Monte Carlo trap gun that left the factory as is . So as you can see I’ve NEVER tried an O/U in the ring although I’d be quite open to a Fabbri or Bosis someone wished to give away

[todd allen]

Originally Posted by CraigThompson

I’ve only used two guns in the ring an actual Parker DH 12 2 frame 32” live bird gun that left the factory safety less and the VHE 12 gauge 1 1/2 frame 32” vent rib Monte Carlo trap gun that left the factory as is . So as you can see I’ve NEVER tried an O/U in the ring although I’d be quite open to a Fabbri or Bosis someone wished to give away

I have shot the Fabbri on birds, and even had a chance to pick one up at a pretty reasonable price.
My friend, and mentor on pigeon shooting offered me a step ribbed Fabbri for $35k, which I should have jumped on. Could have made a hundred grand on that deal, but who knew they would make such a jump in value.
The last I heard that gun sold for 135k, and is now higher than p-tang on a Ferris wheel.
BTW, on a first barrel load, you should try a 1 1/8 oz load, and the standard pigeon load for the second barrel.
Pigeons often require a lightening fast second barrel.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by todd allen

I have shot the Fabbri on birds, and even had a chance to pick one up at a pretty reasonable price.
My friend, and mentor on pigeon shooting offered me a step ribbed Fabbri for $35k, which I should have jumped on. Could have made a hundred grand on that deal, but who knew they would make such a jump in value.
The last I heard that gun sold for 135k, and is now higher than p-tang on a Ferris wheel.
BTW, on a first barrel load, you should try a 1 1/8 oz load, and the standard pigeon load for the second barrel.
Pigeons often require a lightening fast second barrel.

I shoot to fast now LOL’s . Sometimes I don’t release the single trigger on my VHE enough to let it reset . Happened twice at the last shoot . Never had this issue at Colombaire , sporting or doubles trap . But in each of those I don’t try to shoot anywhere near as quick . In January of 2023 for boxbird quail I tried 1 1/8 of #8’s in the right barrel and a regular pigeon load in the left and wasn’t pleased . Saturday I’ll try my handload sporting loads which are pretty much the standard 1 1/8 target load in the right barrel and hammer loads in the left .

[Researcher]

I nought a flat of these --

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when Morris first introduced them, but I've only lived here twenty years so I'm not well enough vetted here to get an invitation. Guess they will go to Wards when I'm dead.

I'm still looking for a box of Western Cartridge Co.'s Super-X, 3-inch, high velocity, Lubaloy Pigeon load they offered from February 1929 --

February 1, 1929, bottom of page 17.jpeg

to May 4,1949 --

May 4, 1949, Super-X Lubaloy, Pigeon Load highlighted in red.jpg

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

I nought a flat of these --

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when Morris first introduced them, but I've only lived here twenty years so I'm not well enough vetted here to get an invitation. Guess they will go to Wards when I'm dead.

I'm still looking for a box of Western Cartridge Co.'s Super-X, 3-inch, high velocity, Lubaloy Pigeon load they offered from February 1929 --

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to May 4,1949 --

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I bought some of the RST pigeon loads at Rock Mountain three years ago . Seems to me the ones I had were said to be 1365 fps , I do know they crumpled pigeons very well .

[Big D]

Springer puppy field trials used pigeons. That about as tough as live bird shooting can get, IMHO