Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums General Parker Discussions

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
New to me Parker Grade V with questions...
Unread 10-22-2012, 12:51 PM   #1
Member
dan dwyer
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 11
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Default New to me Parker Grade V with questions...

Hello to all. I am new to this forum though a member on numerous others including Colt, Smith and Wesson, Luger, P.38 and many more. The purpose of this thread is to ask a question about 1 of 2 Parker's I recently acquired. As shown in photos, I have a 1901 shotgun, Grade V with matching serial numbers. My question regards the butt stock. As can be seen, the carving on the stock is not traditional. Also the grip cap is also carved and different. Was this configuration offered by Parker or is it aftermarket? Looks to be old. Also, if new original, how negatively does it affect the value? Gun has Vulcan steel barrels. Thanks in advance for any input...Dan
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_4393.jpg (540.5 KB, 7 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4394.jpg (509.9 KB, 6 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4395.jpg (516.9 KB, 6 views)
dan dwyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-22-2012, 01:17 PM   #2
Member
OH Osthaus
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Rick Losey's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 7,833
Thanks: 1,668
Thanked 8,228 Times in 3,274 Posts

Default

It is unlikely to be Parker work (never say never) and any custom option would be unlikely on a V grade

I do not think it would add to value
__________________
"If there is a heaven it must have thinning aspen gold, and flighting woodcock, and a bird dog" GBE
Rick Losey is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-22-2012, 08:06 PM   #3
Member
Ed Blake
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,267
Thanks: 743
Thanked 828 Times in 338 Posts

Default

It's not Parker work, rest assured. What sort of treatment does the butt have?
Ed Blake is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-22-2012, 08:38 PM   #4
Member
B. Dudley
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Brian Dudley's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,619
Thanks: 488
Thanked 17,755 Times in 4,649 Posts

Default

The semi-good news is that might be able to be salvaged and made right again. Hard to tell for sure by the photos, but if the carving does not get too close to the meal parts, the wood could be taken down some and original style checkering recut.
The grip cap is not correct either, but that could most likely be replaced with the right one too.

By the look of the comb and how fat the grip looks, I would wager that the buttstock might be a replacement. Again, just a guess based on what I see.
__________________
B. Dudley
Brian Dudley is offline   Reply With Quote
Visit Brian Dudley's homepage!
Unread 10-22-2012, 08:46 PM   #5
Member
John Farrell, Charter Member #33
Forum Associate
 
John Farrell's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 335
Thanks: 100
Thanked 141 Times in 78 Posts

Default

Obviously, a bit of work by an individualist that wanted to be noticed. At the same time, the gouge work would be easier to clean than line checkering. The color contrast added is also a standout in the crowd.
John Farrell is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-22-2012, 09:15 PM   #6
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 15,684
Thanks: 6,216
Thanked 8,962 Times in 4,800 Posts

Default

The grip cap is of a design that was used in the "early days". Before the grip checkering is changed by our recommendation, you should send pictures of the forend and butt treatment. Personally, I think the grip checkering is very characteristic of folk art and should not be "hidden" or "covered up". On a V Grade, it should be left in place as an example of what it is, great folk art.
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-22-2012, 10:05 PM   #7
Member
wayne goerres
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,096
Thanks: 2
Thanked 626 Times in 380 Posts

Default

the pistol grip cap looks like the ones they put on belguim guns. This stile was very popular on belguim and german shotguns around the turn of the twenty century.
wayne goerres is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-23-2012, 09:03 AM   #8
Member
dan dwyer
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 11
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Default

Thanks to all. I know practically nothing about these fine old guns but I do not plan to change the butt stock or alter. I agree with Bill and really think it is great. I suppose value is affected negatively but so be it.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_4401.jpg (541.3 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4402.jpg (527.4 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4403.jpg (532.2 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4409.jpg (528.4 KB, 2 views)
dan dwyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-23-2012, 09:09 AM   #9
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 31,728
Thanks: 35,889
Thanked 33,489 Times in 12,442 Posts

Default

If that's the same gun... you have a forend from a Grade-3 or higher and a Trojan buttplate.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-23-2012, 09:41 AM   #10
Member
charlie cleveland
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 12,986
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7,799 Times in 3,968 Posts

Default

i agree with bill...its a nice gun as it is just enjoy it... charlie
charlie cleveland is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:56 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.