Hammer Guns Without Checkering

[Patrick Hanna]

Carl,
I'm not knowledgable at all, but I've seen the term "stub twist" come up here before. I wish I could contribute something useful about stub twist, but I can't. However, if this thread stays alive, I am darned certain that someone will chime in about stub twist.

In the meantime, we (myself included) have sort of derailed this thread about non-checkered Parkers. But I doubt our original poster is too offended. I hope not.

Patrick

[Pa SxS]

Stub twist is not uncommon but less common than Plain Twist. Patrick, is that a capital I? The price list from that era shows it as a lower case i. Probably a misprint in the price list.

[Patrick Hanna]

Hi again,Chuck,
Yes, it is definitely a number 1. It's not a Roman numeral or an "I". It's a latin number "1". I just looked for an "after" picture. I have a number of pictures of the cleaned receiver, but, regrettably, nothing that shows the grade marking after cleaning. But it says "1" above the serial number.
Patrick

[Dean Romig]

Here are a couple of pictures of the Stub Twist barrels on 20 ga. lifter 10165.




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[Patrick Hanna]

Ooooooo.... Very pretty to my eyes. And I can tell by that sliding fore arm key that your gun is older than the one I showed. Very cool!

We had a thread on various types of barrel steel some time ago and it seems to me that several fine examples of stub twist were shown and discussed. I'm not sure how to find it in the archives, but I know it's out there.

Perhaps one of the regular contributors can find a link for us.

[Dean Romig]

As I was looking over the pictures of 10165, the 20 ga. with the Stub Twist barrels I thought folks would be interested that it shows no evidence of ever being checkered. It is an enigma also by the fact that it has a skeleton steel butt plate, sculpted bolsters that are similar to the Grade 3 hammer guns and some very unusual engraving too. It is listed as a T0 (Twist 0-grade) in the grade column, further supporting it as being an enigma. I wonder what a letter would say.



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[Patrick Hanna]

Dean, I think that's a treasure. I can't comment on its grade or appointments or any of that, but it's in such good shape. I think that's a beauty.

[Mike Franzen]

A 20 gauge lifter! That's a dream gun

[Carl Baird]

What a nice old Parker...so much character. As an aside, I've been rereading my DGJ volumes again. One thing I've noticed is so many of the articles on discoveries, rescues and restorations are, for the most part, on high end guns. I think it's sad that the vast majority of remaining doubles are not the rarest or the most lavish. I only wish they had featured more articles on rescues and restorations on the lower grades. My old 12 ga. stub twist means as much to me as any of my other guns. To me the gun must have a wealth of history behind it and I wish I knew its full story.

[Carl Baird]

Todd, I don't know for sure if my gun did come with checkering. As I stated earlier, the gun had a Tiger Maple stock and a walnut forend when I bought it. The maple stock was checkered with flat 16LPI. The original walnut stock may have been checkered, but maybe not. I assumed it was because the forend had checkering? My gun's serial # is in the very low 40XXX, and I thought it was the lowest of grades. Now I don't know.