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Unread 07-22-2015, 01:10 PM   #11
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The "stock book records"?
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Unread 07-22-2015, 01:25 PM   #12
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Bill, how would you have said it?

As for the length, the existing records (stock book or not) show it leaving Meriden with a 13 3/4" LOP. Judging by the reshaped butt plate, I would guess it didn't go back to Meriden to have the stock shortened.
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Unread 07-22-2015, 07:59 PM   #13
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I was just curious about access to the stock books. Of course, as editor of our journal, access should be easy. How about those of us who have had legitimate research projects in the past, but have had access denied? No disrespect meant to Dean, only to our BOD. I am too old to hold back my disappointment in some of our present and past directors.
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I guess by 'stealing' I was referring to the term 'lucky' used to describe the new owner. I assumed that meant he got a good deal.
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Hi Everyone !

I'm the one who pulled the trigger on this one. The attraction for me was the barrels. I like one off type guns. When I see one like this it keeps talking to me until I either have to do something about it or play mind games with myself to get over it.

I looked the GB auction over & at first just said to myself "Oh another Grade 2" Then when I enlarged the pictures I noticed the barrel pattern was something out of the norm. I then made a quick check of the serialization book about the barrel length "Sure enough 27" Then off to the Parker story to see how many grade-2 12ga hammerless guns made with 27" Damascus barrels. The count was 24 total "None with Laminated" Now it's time to ask some questions of the seller. The usual stuff about barrel condition dents, pits, bulges etc. also what type steel did it say on the top rib & what letter was stamped in the barrel flat. He told me the top rib states Damascus steel & the letter on the flats is a "D" "It still looks like an L in the pictures" I then asked for the pictures he mentioned in the ad. After reviewing the pictures it was fairly well confirmed in my mind that the barrels were Laminated rather than D-2 standard Damascus. I then went back to the Parker story "Only this time to Vol-2 in the barrels chapter" In this chapter there is mention that the factory first used laminated rough tubes imported from England from 1868 to 1893 "This gun was made in 1891" Also in this chapter they show pictures of the Birmingham provisional proof mark for Laminated steel. If you look at the ad in the picture of the barrel flats you can see this proof mark. All of this put together made me want to pull the trigger on this one.

I again contacted the seller, cut a deal & now I'm waiting to get the gun in hand. A letter on will be ordered post hast.

On a personal note:

My 58th birthday is this Sunday and this is my present to myself. My feeling is not all gun purchases need to be bargain basement deals. Some of them are simply because the gun talk's to you and you have to do something about it.
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Unread 07-22-2015, 10:53 PM   #16
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I assumed that meant he got a good deal.

All I meant by "Lucky" was that someone bought what I consider to be a collectible Parker GH specifically because of the barrel steel but also because of the earliest Grade 2 hammerless engraving, the unusual length of the barrels, the 1-frame size, the very nice original condition of the gun (with the exclusion o the stock being cut)... not anything to do with the price.
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That seems a pretty reasonable price for a G grade that looks that nice. The receiver looks very nice, the bbl pattern unique. I like it a lot! I have a 1-frame 26" GHE12 and it is a joy to carry, and I paid a LOT more for it than this one went for.
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Congratulations Paul. You went through nearly the same channels I did when I first saw this gun on gunbroker.
Please let us know when you receive the gun exactly what that letter stamp is... I'm still convinced it is a L but I'll believe you when you finally see it up close. If it is a D then the right upper quadrant of the D didn't strike very deeply.

Again, Congratulations on a very nice gun.
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Great find. 27'' is interesting enough but to have possibly the only Laminate Steel GH is something else.
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Dean, you did the due diligence, why didn't you end up with this jewel?
Or did Paul just beat you to the punch?
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