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09-11-2012, 10:27 PM | #3 | ||||||
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shouldn't there also be a set of Remington date codes on the barrel?
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09-12-2012, 08:39 AM | #4 | ||||||
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Indeed, there are Remington codes on the barrel flats. Two of them, to be exact. I determined that the gun was there in May and July 1940.
After posting my inquiry I looked at a 20 gauge VH 236XXX SN gun which, oddly, has the Parker name on the underside of the receiver. Its barrel flats has the Parker Bros stamp. The workmanship on the rebarreled gun is poor by comparison to the 1932-1933 VH gun. That is what made me think the lugs and ejector parts were reused. Thanks for your thoughts. JF |
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09-12-2012, 09:37 AM | #5 | ||||||
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Pictures?
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09-12-2012, 01:53 PM | #6 | ||||||
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Two reasons I can't post photos of the Parker Gun Works here.
First, the stamping is not deep and is done with find lines which is not readable except under really good light and with a keen eye. Second, I tried a couple of photos with my micro closeup lens and just get a blurry image. The subject stamping pattern compared to the Parker Bros. stamping on the barrel flats is identical but for the word change. And, the S in Works is not readable at all. Like the die was not level on the barrel flat on either side or the hammer was not struck level. Last edited by John Farrell; 09-12-2012 at 01:54 PM.. Reason: Fulfillment |
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09-12-2012, 02:12 PM | #7 | ||||||
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Stamping by Remington
John I agree about the stamps.
On a number of Remington Parkers I have seen, the barrel flat stamping is kind of hap-hazard. The general workmanship on the gun is very good but the stampings are kind of lax. I dont know why. |
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09-12-2012, 03:46 PM | #8 | ||||||
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My guess is, because of the fact that in 1932-1933 the country was in a more severe "great recession" than we are now - when the hammer that was purchased some time in the distant past suffered a broken handle - the Remington management decreed the hammer handle would not be replaced and that the workman, who was lucky to have a job doing anything, had to hit the stamp die by holding the hammer head in his hand. And being that the hammer was a ball peen to begin with, and the workman got his revenge by hitting the die with the ball end of the hammer, the result is the lightly indented lettering of the otherwise quality die stamp. And the history of poor management decisions follows the firm to this very day.
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09-13-2012, 03:28 PM | #9 | ||||||
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John, You might be right about the hammer handle, but that would have been Parker Bros that would not replace it, Remington took over control of the Parker Gun Works on June 15, 1934. I have often wondered about this time period, at Parker Bros, they were only making a few hundred guns per year at the end, and surely with a reduced work force. I wonder if they might have taken a little more time and added a few more embellishments here and there, any one seen any evidence of this Gary
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09-13-2012, 05:27 PM | #10 | ||||||
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Gary - the gun in question is a rebarrel by Remington's Parker Gun Works. The previous owner had the gun in to Remington in May and July 1940, for I assume barrels and stock work. On my Parker Bros guns the die stamped Parker Bros. is clear and complete. I should have noted that the period of the work done by Remington was while the country was at the end of , but still in the grip of, the Great Depression and prior to WW2. JF
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