CSM .410 barrels vs. Dove

[Chuck Heald]

I had the Repro with the CSM .410 barrels out for the Yuma openner on dove. The full/full choked barrels accounted for 10 whitewings in the morning and about 20 high flying (some really high) Eurasian collared dove in the afternoon.

I used 7 1/2 shot on the whitewings and some 6 shot 3" shells on the high flying Eurasians after noting that the 7 1/2s were not cutting it.

I think I'm really pleased with the gun as a .410. Although, I did find the chambers a little tight and the extractor rods could stand to be trimmed a bit to ensure the gun doesn't close on the rims. I'll get on that this week. I have a new reamer and I want to put long cones in this one too.

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

what a sweet thing!!

[Joe Bernfeld]

30 doves in a day. You must really like to eat doves !

[charlie cleveland]

wish my stevens 410 looked that good...i may try it on doves at my next outing...glad your barrels worked out you have a great looking gun...and it must shoot good too... charlie

[GH-16]

Very nice !!! You really lucked out with your CSMC barrels. This makes a very nice & unique repro. for sure.

I'm glad it all worked out for you!!!!

[Pittypatdugan]

please let me know if "extractor rods could stand to be trimmed a bit" works out ok

Thanks

Pat

[Chuck Heald]

Pat,
Will do.

My thoughts on this issue are: when the gun is fired and the shells ejected, the ejectors are in the "ejected" or "tripped" position. The extractors are pushed out about another 1/16"-1/8" further when in the ejected position than when the ejectors are cocked (closing the gun cocks the ejectors) and then the gun openned again.

When new cartridges inserted in the gun after firing, the tripped ejectors push the extractor rods out more and cause the rims of the shells to hang up on the breachface, unless pressure is put on the shell heads upon closing, or if the gun is fired, openned to eject, closed, and openned again, then loaded. I'll get on this soon, since it's a real pain in the field but soon forgotten if I don't do it right away.

[Chuck Heald]

Pat,
I recut the chambers and cut the long cones tonight. It seems to have cured all the problems. I'll have to check it some more and shoot it this weekend. I still need to polish the cones and chambers. But I didn't shorten the extractors.

[C.O.B.]

You said it was F/F, do you know what the actual constrictions are? I have a CSM Fox 410 that is .022 & .023 which equate to extra full and ridiculously full.

[Chuck Heald]

Rich,
The chokes are .017/.017". When I ordered the barrels, they were listed as being available in IC/Mod as I recall. I simply asked if they would leave them full/full. Carol wrote it on the order card and said "maybe". When they came in, they were as asked. I do wish they were .020/.020, but the long cones I just cut yesterday and polished for the last few hours will tighten it up further. The pattern board will tell.