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Are these 2.75 Chamber Parkers???
Unread 11-29-2013, 02:08 PM   #1
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Post Are these 2.75 Chamber Parkers???

Hello all:

I have purchased two Parkers with (I am told) 2.75 inch chambers.

First of all I told all of you everything I know about Parker Shotguns when I said hello (I'm a model 12 collector)..I KNOW Model 12's)

...So...I need your sage advice:


1) The Serial numbers on the two parkers I purchased on 11/27/13 are: 185563
Parker Trojan has OV on Watertable below serial # 28" barrel with a 3 with 12 stamped above and to the right of the three (like 3 to the 12 power) It has a Trojan Steel barrel. It has a #2 Frame stamped on barrel lug. 2) The second Parker Serial Number 224276 (PH grade) has a PH above serial # on the watertable and a P below serial # . This gun has a Parker Steel Barrel. On Barrel flats it has a P in a circle and 1 1/2 on barrel lug. It has O B 4 on left flat and a 3 with a little one above and to the rigt of the three (like 3 to the 1st power). It has 1 1/2 frame stamped on barrel lug. I would like to know if they are 2.75 chambers. It also has a straight stock nice wood no checkering on the fore end or stock. But very nice curly walnut. Both guns have steel barrels no damacus or twist barrels. Trojan is a 95 % Gun. parker PH is about a 75% Gun. I paid $2,000 for the two parkers and a very nice Ithaca double serial number on the Ithaca is : 446931...

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serial number 224276 left the factory wearing an capped pistol grip stock, and would have been checkered - so the stock is likely a replacement. the barrels on that one should be 28".

the numbers you refer to as "power" is the ounces to the unstruck barrel weight, so 3 pounds 12 ounces, and 3 pounds 1 ounce.

the only way to verify the chambers current state is to have them measured
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If a person is concerned about cartridge length, they can obtain these special shells:
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Most Parkers in that era have 2 5/8" chambers meant for 2 3/4" or shorter shells.
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I think model 12s are wonder guns to. those parkers should be good shooters. there is an old saying ...before you buy a gun buy a book
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it should read wonderful
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did I get burned on these three doubles
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Paul:

So...did I get burned on these three doubles: Parker Trojan 85-90%; Parker Ph grade 75% and Ithaca (NID) 85%...I gave $2,000 for the three. I'm a bit worried about what I paid...

Carl Williams posted on 11/27/13 the following:

1) The Serial numbers on the two parkers I purchased on 11/27/13 are: 185563
Parker Trojan has OV on Watertable below serial # 28" barrel with a 3 with 12 stamped above and to the right of the three (like 3 to the 12 power) It has a Trojan Steel barrel. It has a #2 Frame stamped on barrel lug. 2) The second Parker Serial Number 224276 (PH grade) has a PH above serial # on the watertable and a P below serial # . This gun has a Parker Steel Barrel. On Barrel flats it has a P in a circle and 1 1/2 on barrel lug. It has O B 4 on left flat and a 3 with a little one above and to the rigt of the three (like 3 to the 1st power). It has 1 1/2 frame stamped on barrel lug. I would like to know if they are 2.75 chambers. It also has a straight stock nice wood no checkering on the fore end or stock. But very nice curly walnut. Both guns have steel barrels no damacus or twist barrels. Trojan is a 95 % Gun. parker PH is about a 75% Gun. I paid $2,000 for the two parkers and a very nice Ithaca double serial number on the Ithaca is : 446931...


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Carl- giving an accurate value without the guns in hand is difficult, good clear detailed pictures could help with a ball park value. You likely have three good shooters at the minimum.

are they all 12 gauges?

the PH has likely been restocked ( the other option is a pistol-grip-dectomy ) was a long tang trigger guard used? and was Parker style and checkering followed?

the Trojan may be original, but with a 2 frame there is some chance that it may of originally had longer than 28 inch barrels - pictures may help - a letter (there are surviving records for that number) would answer that question in fact.

the only thing I know about NIDs is that they are solid guns built for modern (at the time) shells- very solid often not light, the 12's don't bring a lot but make good shooters, the small bores bring a little more money - and the few NID 10's out there are highly sought.

Chamber length needs to be measured, the NID will be 2 3/4, some Parkers were ordered that way, some have been altered to be that way.
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you did not get burned...anytime a person can but 3 guns as you discribed for 2000 dollars has bought a real bargain in my opinion... charlie
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