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Thanks Craig. Makes sense now about the wads. I'm going to try not skiving and see how it works for me.
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I cut my hulls on a bandsaw so after wards I generally scrape around the inside edge with my pocket knife . I used to use a Dremel tool but that was a PITA , I suppose what I do wouldn't be called "skiving" and I'm not sure it's needed even . But I do it after cutting the hulls none the less . I just wish I had a PW LS1000 or even a converted 9000 , Grabber or 650 to load my 10 gauge shot loads .
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I made a tapered wood plug just the right size, it’s fixed to the end of a 1/4 rod. Spin it in the lathe or drill press it heats up the plastic and re forms like a fresh uncrimped hull. It’s a fair amount of trouble to cut down hulls, getting a few more loads out of them worth the little effort it takes to run the plug . It handles the skiving job too.
Use them for 16 & 10 were I am forced to use many Cheddite hulls. Ballistic products tool is tapered, one size fits all and not very effective in my opinion. William |
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I do not skive the trimmed hulls. I seat the wad and add the filler by hand then add shot. I also use a lubed fiber filler to cut down on the bits that can blow back into your face when shooting into the wind. There is still some debris but greatly reduced and is very fine and light so it won't blow back into you. 19.0 grains of Red Dot with 1 & 1/8 oz. shot, best load ever for a light ten. on the clays course.
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On the loading, I use a mixed set of tools. Size and reprime on a PW 375, knocking the primed case out with a custom knock out rod that is cupped to avoid the fresh primer inside. Cases set up in a loading block. Then charge, insert the SP 10, then the fiber filler wads, last drop th shot, all on the PW 375, die removed hull sitting on a disk inside the sizer holder. Cases back to the loading block.
Last step crimp on a MEC 600 that delivers a nice crimp. It does not re size well at all. Reason for using the 375. Be better to do everything on one press and if I ever find another 375 cheap will alter it for dedicated short 10. Little lube can help loading a lot. Some Imperial die wax on your fingers wiped on anything sticking makes the job easy. Only if it’s needed, some wads are hard to insert and cause buckled cases. 19 Red Dot 1 1/8 shot is a great load. William |
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I use a singe edge razor rather than a exacto tool - cheaper. I don't skive and have loaded many cut down 12 and 10ga. Also the plastic start crimp tool works just fine, never found a reason for the brass one. I load with a Mec 600 with a 12ga drop tube. I found the 16ga filler wad would wad to go up in the 10ga drop tube too easy. It still will with the 12ga tube if your not careful. I first seat the plastic wad, then LIGHTY seat the filler wad. I have never found a need for wax. A Grabber could be turned into a 10ga press. If I remember correctly there are two washers under the carrier plate, or maybe one on top and one under. Anyways, they must be made smaller to allow the 10ga shell to locate properly. Also, the area where the shell goes in the carrier must be ground bigger to accept the 10ga shell and you'll get mighty close to grinding into the primer hole. There's room, you just have to be careful. I converted one, but being a brain dead old fart couldn't get it work because I was trying to load 2 5/8" shells and there wasn't enough adjustment for the short shells. Probably could have with a bit more fooling around but I got tired of it and quit. That's my take on the 10ga reloading. I use just Mec's, and they seem to work just fine for resizing, crimping , or anything. Good luck. Sounds like you're doing just fine - and your shooting sounds real good.
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Issue with my MEC 600 was bending rims on Cheddite hulls. Could have solved it by not using cheddites or perhaps replacing the ring on the MEC. I do think you need to size if function is critical. Have 2 PWs easy to set one up for the 10 From scratch new press I think a MEC Size master probably the way to go . Separate size prime charge seat routine is the way I load Metalic & way I am programmed
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