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"Back in the day" lead 6s was my choice for ducks over decoys and passing shots. With my fine older guns I have gone to, by modern standards, low velocity (1150 - 1200 fps) Bismuth 5s. Still a good shot count, nice patterns, and dependable knock down. Get your best "dove lead" out, throw it out in front of 'em and let'em run into it. I have found this is actually a better success rate for me than the high velocity steel we're shooting today.
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07-03-2020, 01:30 PM | #4 | ||||||
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I have shot #5 bismuth for many years with great results in vintage Parkers and Foxes, 1 1/8oz 1125fps handloads. However for late season hunting hunting for big feathered up Mallards and Blacks I use 1 1/4oz #3 Kent TM in a 3 farme 12ga Parker or a Super Fox.
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07-03-2020, 02:02 PM | #5 | ||||||
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Are you loading your own 1200 fps bismuth loads?
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07-03-2020, 02:46 PM | #6 | ||||||
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Ken's question is a good one. Also, what are the typical ranges at which you'll generally be shooting? Early season or later (I assume early to mid-season if you are jump shooting from a canoe)?
Early and close, I'd go with the 5s also. Later and/or with greater distance, I'd opt for number 4 shot. Center 'em and close range and any of the sizes will do it.
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Ken, I just had some tested at Precision, 16 ga. and 12 ga. hand load bismuth.
12 ga. 20 gr. Int'l 1 oz. #5 bismuth Cheditte 2 1/2" Cheditte 209 comp spcl short wad avg 1265 fps avg 7692 psi Just a bit faster than I anticipated but happy pressures. I may back off 1 gr. 16 ga. 15.7 gr. Int'l 7/8 oz. bismuth Cheditte 2 1/2" Cheditte 209 sporting 16 wad avg 1229 fps avg 8733 psi Same 16 ga. load w/Fioche 616 and lead #7 Avg 1211 fps avg 8433 psi Shooting in Parkers with steel barrels. |
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07-03-2020, 05:48 PM | #8 | ||||||
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Here in nh we shoot a lot of wood ducks and for the most of my shooting is 7/8 th oz bismuth 6 s out of a 20 ga, so out of a 12 ga 6 s or 5 s should work just fine.
Scott
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07-05-2020, 12:21 PM | #9 | ||||||
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Ken, thanks for sharing the test data on the loads.
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For jump shooting on open streams I wouldn't use anything but #4. The chances for 40 yard plus shots are going to be high.
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