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I have an old GH damascus barrelled gun that i need re-done the rib is separating from the barrels it is 1 1/2 frame with 2 weight barrel.
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What are "2 weight" barrels and how did you come up with that term regarding Parker shotguns?





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I would imagine that is the frame number on the lug, a 2 frame. The barrel weight is on the barrel flats, found with a larger number and then the ounces in subscript (smaller).
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So it's a 1 1/2 frame with 2 frame barrels? If the 2 stamp is on the barrel lug I wonder where the OP gets the impression the gun is a 1 1/2 ?

Certainly not from the firing pin spacing because both the 1 frame and the 1 1/2 frame use 1 1/8" spacing....




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Yup, a clear picture of the barrel flats and the lug where all the stampings are shown.





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How much of the rib, and where is the separation?
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How much of the rib, and where is the separation?
Just ar the muzzle, but may have a gunsnith re lay the ribs and re brown
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I have had 2 guns, one a Parker that had a rib separation at the muzzle, both 1 1/2" or less.
On the Parker, a decent gun, but just a shooter VH, I was able to get the rib soldered back in place without removal. This did discolor/distort the bluing in that area. I just used a wipe on bluing compound and blended in the area, and over the years has held and looks fine--don't know about Damascus barrels.
. Again, not a high grade, high condition gun--I didn't want a $1000 fix on a $1200 gun.
I got this advice from another PGCA member on another gun. Not a Parker. Top rib loose about an inch. First clean/degrease area--I used carb cleaner.
I used Red Loctite on the rib/barrel interface. Cleared all the excess Loctite out with cotton swab and tooth picks.
A dowel rod with a hole drilled in it to go over the bead was clamped over the rib with rubber jawed clamps for 2 days. H ave had no problems since.
Now, I expect I'll get some "crap' over this fix, and I would not advise it on a high grade gun--Brian, please avert your eyes. But, if the fix for your gun is more or less the worth of the gun, well it's up to you. Don't think you would be able to do this if you wanted to re-brown your Damascus barrels.
I would imagine the cost of rebrowning Damascus and relaying ribs to be $1000, maybe more. Tube of red Loctite, $8.00
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3 12 on barrels 1 1/2 0n lugs. 3 is big number 12 is smaller number.
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