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Unread 05-11-2011, 09:32 AM   #1
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Just located my late uncles Parker SxS, Grade 0-VHE, 28 in. Vulcan steel barrels, 1 ½ frame, 12 ga., Serial # 225455 circa 1927, Stock is pistol grip with original butt plate, Splintered fore end. Barrel and trigger guard Blue look very good. Also have the original catalogue hand dated May 14th, 1927. Frame screws are unmolested.

This Parker looks to be original except for the stock butt end plate which has been replaced past and references Winchester Repeating Co.

What is required to preserve the original condition and patina and prevent further spotting? I have only wiped with silicone cloth.

I have attached pictures and would appreciate feedback regarding overall condition and rough value.

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Frank
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Unread 05-11-2011, 10:02 AM   #2
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Hi Frank, welcome to the PGCA forum.

What on earth did 'somebody' do to the frame??
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Dear Dean,

I have no history with regards to modification from original surface finish of the frame. My observation of the frame did not indicate buffing or polishing. In review of pictures of similiar parkers lead me to believe the frame was always a contrasting color to the barrels. Please explain in addition detail the variance you noted from OEM specification.

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Frank, I think what Dean means is the frame and forend latch almost look like they were bead blasted just a very plain overall gray, I have never seen something like that before. Maybe you could give us a few more closeup pictures. Eric
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Frank,

Welcome and congrats on the Parker.

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Ditto on the congrats. All Parkers warrant that. The coloration is very far from OEM.

This is claimed to be original. Snagged from Guns International





When I soaked the rust seized action/frame of 108603 for a very long time, the rust did come off and left a very similar look to the metal. Kinda like "in the white". Maybe it was chemically treated a long time ago and then left before doing anything further. Just a thought. Also noted that the stock head appears to have been "pinned". This may indicate the stock head is cracked inside or it may have been done as a preventive measure to avoid cracking/breaking in the field. This is seen on occasion and is also not OEM. Wonderful to have some original paper with the gun.
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Frank,

Welcome Aboard! It is a dream for most to own a family Parker. Your Uncles 12 gauge VH will serve you and yours for many years to come. The frames of Parkers were case colored as was the forend latch. The trigger guard bow was niter blued. It looks as if your family Parker received a good dose of Navy Jelly or something similar or was parkerized (nothing to do with Parker shotguns, but a finish often used on military guns).

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Frank, Jack's illustrations are what is considered to be 'original Parker Bros. charcoal case hardened colors'. Yours appears to have been chemically treated with something like Naval Jelly or a similar product which stripped away everything but the steel itself. It appears that all the metal parts except the barrels received the treatment.
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Frank: There are some folks who can return your gun to close to its original glory. As for value in current condition?? I leave that to the more experienced buyers/sellers here.

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Appreciate all the feedback with regards to the frame and forend latch which have altered finish from OEM. I will look closer at the stock which has been "pinned".

What is required to preserve the current condition, patina and prevent further spotting? I have only wiped with silicone cloth.

Lastly how do these alterations from OEM affect the value? Should the Parker be preserved as is or have some of the deficiences restored?
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