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Unread 12-25-2013, 04:13 PM   #11
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I'm now 175 miles away from my man pit, so I can't look up the order sheet and description I have. I think the safety issue was that the Parker didn't pass Remington's "Slam Test" which I think involved banging the gun on a hard surface. Gotta love them lawyers
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Unread 12-25-2013, 05:45 PM   #12
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Lawyers had little to do with it, John. The Mod 32 trigger resolved slam fire concerns which were entirely of Remington's standards and not an industry standard. The problem was manufacturing expertise and expense. You'll note that the present Parker is manufactured with either the original Parker double or single trigger. The CSMC manufacturing abilities resolved manufacturing ability issues. The expense issue is open to discussion.
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Unread 12-26-2013, 12:41 AM   #13
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Thank you all for your feedback .... much appreciated !
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There must be a fairly healthy royalty to Remington when you consider the $49,000 price versus one of Tony's deluxe Foxes or double rifles
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Unread 12-26-2013, 09:29 AM   #15
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I think that also it is the very low quantity of production and the fully made to order nature of the gun.
If they were to offer a lower grade, and more people bought it, I would expect price to proportionately much more reasonable.
I did inquire with them about if they were considering offering lower grades and gauges. They said they were in "talks" about it, but that is all they said.
I would think that there would be a long order list for a DHE 20g that was priced like their entry level Fox guns.
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Unread 12-26-2013, 11:32 AM   #16
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CSMC had originally anticipated producing as many as ten per year but that dream never came to fruition.

Regarding the Remington Parker revival guns see the Parker Pages, Winter 2010 issue for a few pictures of one in Kenneth Goldenberg's collection.
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Unread 12-26-2013, 11:46 AM   #17
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I suspect that, even if CSMC chose to produce a "lower" grade Parker, it would likely cost $8,000 - $10,000 to produce in the US. The Parker is a relatively complex gun with many closely fitted parts. One approach might be to redesign the mechanism to a simpler (i.e. Fox) design, while keeping the Parker exterior. But, then would it be a Parker?
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Remington actually took that route after production on Parkers stopped. Their plan was to buy Fox guns and profile the receivers to look like Parkers and sell them with the Parker name. The PGCA research committee may be in possession of memos to that effect.
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One approach might be to redesign the mechanism to a simpler (i.e. Fox) design, while keeping the Parker exterior. But, then would it be a Parker?
In my opinion, No it wouldn't be a Parker by any stretch of the imagination.
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I suspect that, even if CSMC chose to produce a "lower" grade Parker, it would likely cost $8,000 - $10,000 to produce in the US. The Parker is a relatively complex gun with many closely fitted parts.

CSMC already has the machining programs in their data-base for the Parker and could produce these guns nearly as cheaply as the RBL or any of the other guns they manufacture. The expense would be in producing the various frame sizes. Personally, I'd be happy with just the 00-Frame twenty-eight bore Parker... but others would prefer a larger frame size.
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