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Unread 05-02-2016, 08:02 PM   #11
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Careful Allen - the Trojans were originally checkered in a fairly coarse LPI with flat top diamonds. A used Trojan may appear to have almost worn off checkering but that is often not the case. Look at a high condition original to see what the checkering should look like before starting.

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Allen, here's a link to a gun I bought a couple of years ago and one of the photos shows a lot of the grip checkering...

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Gun-L...ordsPerPage=80

No, I didn't pay anything near what they were asking but it's a nice one and similar to the one you're describing. Good luck!
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Allan, nice looking 16! The one I looked at locally....the stock is practically black and the checkering is either so worn down or just filled with crud. If I were to purchase it, the first order of business is to strip and de-oil the stock. Once that's done, I'd have a better idea of how much good checkering remains. Bear in mind that I have several Trojans now that I'm holding for 2 grandsons when they become of age when they can handle these) Having just recently refinished one of those stock, I'm familiar with the checkering. The wood on the Trojan 16 I looked at the other day is just so dark with whatever, it's difficult to tell what shape the original checkering is in. The wood didn't seem punky - not at least from the outside, once the frame is off though we'll know what the inside condition is. I may run over tomorrow and take a look as well as get some pics of it with the shop's permission and post here. Thanks again for your post
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Well I went back over to the gun shop today to take a second look at this Trojan 16 as well as take some pics to post here. The ser # of this 16 is 198098 and lists in the book as having 28 inch barrels. I measured the barrels and they're about 1/16 of an inch shy of 28 inches and the roll stamping runs right to the end of the barrel. So, someone has shaved a minor amount off the end of the barrels but I swear I could still see a keel. Didn't have my choke gauge with me but suspect very little effect on the original chokes with so little taken off the barrel ends. Ends probably got dinged up somewhere along the line. Interior barrels are clean. Gun has just a hair of play, barely noticeable with forend off. No play with forend on. But bottom line for me is that however slightly shaved, it's not original enough for me to make an offer. If anyone wants to pursue this, pm me.
Nw let's see if my pics from my cell will post. Note pics of checkering. Wood may appear much lighter in the pic than to the naked eye.
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I would not be sure a 16th of an inch means they were trimmed
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Are you suggesting the barrels may have been 30" to begin with?






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Dean, Allan feels the barrels have been cut because they are 1/16" shorter than the book listed length of 28".
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Trimmed, sure - but cut? From what? Thirty inches?.... not likely, it's a sixteen gauge Trojan. Twenty-six or twenty-eight - those were the standard lengths for a sixteen gauge Trojan. My bet is trimmed due to muzzle damage.






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I seem to remember a discussion here about rib matting and barrel lengths not exactly matching the book. A fraction off and matting going to end of rib. Correct me if I'm wrong but that is not a clear indication that these particular barrels were trimmed does it?
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