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Unread 06-27-2016, 11:27 AM   #11
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Yes. And you woild set the stop point to be before the kickers hit the plate.
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If this is Connecticut reproduction then I'm sorry but it's a bad news. It's like trying to fix ferrari that was build in China on Volkswagen rabbit frame. Syzyfowa praca
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My problem shown were the .410 barrels from CSMC
They sent me new stop plates and said they were made out of better steel, but after the 2nd one they provided
Bent like aluminum, I gave up and sent the gun to Bill.
Since then I have shot at least 1000 shells through
The barrels at skeet, no problem. Others that have seen the quality of these barrels, remark that they are great, with the exception of the stop plate.
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Unread 06-30-2016, 06:58 AM   #14
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If this is Connecticut reproduction then I'm sorry but it's a bad news. It's like trying to fix ferrari that was build in China on Volkswagen rabbit frame. Syzyfowa praca
WoW ...

Is CSMC something to avoid ?

( have been lusting over the A10 )
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I've never heard of any CSMC guns with inherent problems.





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The whole secret behind well made gun is that it's parts are well fitted and properly hardened. The reason? Gun barrels can't be over harden as a matter effect they need to be flexible to take the force of explosion otherwise they will break, bores can be surface hardened inside to increase wear but core has to be soft, then the look parts got to be hardened for wear too, action is a same story, it has to be soft core to take shock but stiff and wear resistant at the same time, it refers to all gun parts. What that means: Complicated process of manufacturing: 1- machine parts from proper carbon content material ( barrels: some manufacturers have their own secret mix that allow for it to be light and thin and resistant to wear and force - like beretta), parts are machined and left oversize. 2 - harder and temper them. 3 - grind them to fit. But that puts manufacturing process in to a serious slowdown, now only a really big facilities can afford to do it and stand up to demand of their marketing. Beretta, browning, krieghoff, kollar, and passionate gunmakers can afford to do that, process require skilled hands and interuption. What we see on market in recent years is guns ugly of beauty full that are produced without proper hardening procedure and without skill hands, why? Because this way small factory can output huge quantity of gun a month. Huglu, csmc, and many more are machined to almost perfect fit put together, raw engraved or electro ethed, coated confident huge price tag is added to blind customer is applied and then trouble starts: why does it fall a part, why can't it be repaired, why doesn't it shoot right, why wood cracked and factory will not fix it properly, maybe replaced but then it's happened again. My advise: get money back find original, give it to a reputable gunsmith with reference who know the difference between renovation and restoration and you will have working and good looking gun forever and for less or buy gun from one of old and biggest gun makers. That is why csmc is buying all old guns out of the market.
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If I needed a new stop plate for a Repro I'd fabricate one using a piece of a 'retired' hand saw blade, which I have a good supply of for making eskimo style ulu knives. That's the toughest steel there is, hard but still flexible and drillable. You'd never bend that stuff in that application.
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The issue with these guns is not so much the plate, it is the dovetail cut in the rib extension.
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So, the rib extension steel is too soft and the dovetail fails?
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Yes Richard, that's what happens.





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