Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Announcement, Help & Introduction Forums New User Introductions

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
1891 Parker Questions
Unread 09-21-2020, 03:30 PM   #1
Member
Michael H Miller
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts

Default 1891 Parker Questions

Hello everyone. Just joined. Got this gun a few years ago and got it out after I found out there was this Association. This is the first Parker I have owned. Any information would be great (approx. value , can I shoot it, should I clean it, is it worth getting restored and if so I am in the Virginia Beach area who would you recommend, etc.) Thanks, Again !

Serial Number - 69923
Grade V
Laminated Steel
Frame 1
Weight L4
30" barrel
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_4970.jpg (516.5 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4971.jpg (499.8 KB, 6 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4972.jpg (488.1 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4978.jpg (496.6 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4977.jpg (477.7 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4980.jpg (511.5 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4974.jpg (490.7 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4979.jpg (492.8 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4983.jpg (455.8 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4984.jpg (475.6 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4986.jpg (501.0 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4985.jpg (490.5 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4992.jpg (498.9 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4993.jpg (492.5 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4995.jpg (466.3 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_5003.jpg (498.4 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_5002.jpg (491.0 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_5001.jpg (456.6 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4999.jpg (400.1 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4998.jpg (494.2 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4996.jpg (465.0 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4997.jpg (481.1 KB, 1 views)

Last edited by Michael H Miller; 09-21-2020 at 04:48 PM.. Reason: add pictures
Michael H Miller is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Michael H Miller For Your Post:
Unread 09-21-2020, 04:59 PM   #2
Member
OH Osthaus
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Rick Losey's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,998
Thanks: 1,225
Thanked 6,545 Times in 2,763 Posts

Default

welcome to the board

it's a Grade 0 12 ga - from what I can see the bores look good

a careful cleaning - no abrasives would not hurt it - Frontier https://www.big45metalcleaner.com/ work good on metal

as for shooting it - no one can tell you that from pictures (which BTW you did a better than the average new poster job with ) it would need to be inspected by someone who knows old doubles - maybe one of the members can recommend a smith in your area

the L in not part of the weight

repro butplates are available


restoration would, not be worth it IMHO
__________________
"If there is a heaven it must have thinning aspen gold, and flighting woodcock, and a bird dog" GBE
Rick Losey is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Rick Losey For Your Post:
Unread 09-21-2020, 05:08 PM   #3
Member
Michael H Miller
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts

Default

O.K. Thanks. I'll get to cleaning. I know it has not been cleaned in at least 30 years. That's how long his father has been dead and he didn't even know it was in the attic until last year! I'll find a butt plate also. Thanks again.
Michael H Miller is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Michael H Miller For Your Post:
Unread 09-21-2020, 09:06 PM   #4
Member
Paul Seiler
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

Default

I too have the same questions about an 1891 Parker Brothers shotgun. It recently fell into my lap and is in worse shape than the one above. I know absolutely nothing about Parker guns, but from the few days I've had to clean the gun and research I found:
Serial number 68545
Laminated steel 28"barrels
Grade 1 (?)

It is missing a hammer and the latch is fairly loose.

I'm not even sure what gauge it is. It has a 2 stamped on it which is a frame used for 10, 12, or 20 gauges. Since a nickel will not fit down the barrel, but a dime will, my father believes it to be a 12 gauge. Please provide any information, or correct any of my assumptions. Thank you!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Parker 1.jpg (528.6 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg Parker 2.jpg (515.9 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg Parker 3.jpg (501.5 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg Parker 4.jpg (558.8 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg Parker 5.jpg (558.4 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg Parker 6.jpg (515.8 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg Parker 7.jpg (552.4 KB, 1 views)
Paul Seiler is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Paul Seiler For Your Post:
Unread 09-21-2020, 10:46 PM   #5
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 25,233
Thanks: 23,496
Thanked 22,328 Times in 8,746 Posts

Default

The L represents Laminated Steel barrels and OH Osthaus always gives good advice.
It has been my experience however, that in that serial number range, Parkers with Laminated Steel barrels and that “graver walk” instead of single line engraving are usually in fact Grade 1 guns, where Grade-0 guns generally had Twist or Twist Steel barrels with straight line border engraving.





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me,
a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Dean Romig For Your Post:
Unread 09-22-2020, 07:28 AM   #6
Member
OH Osthaus
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Rick Losey's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,998
Thanks: 1,225
Thanked 6,545 Times in 2,763 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Romig View Post
The L represents Laminated Steel barrels and OH Osthaus always gives good advice.
It has been my experience however, that in that serial number range, Parkers with Laminated Steel barrels and that “graver walk” instead of single line engraving are usually in fact Grade 1 guns, where Grade-0 guns generally had Twist or Twist Steel barrels with straight line border engraving.
.
i'll bow to your experience on the grade and I'll save the advice comment to show my wife on occasion
__________________
"If there is a heaven it must have thinning aspen gold, and flighting woodcock, and a bird dog" GBE
Rick Losey is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Rick Losey For Your Post:
Unread 09-22-2020, 10:19 AM   #7
Member
Michael H Miller
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts

Default

If I decide to sell mine which is the first one on this post where would be the best place to sell it?
Michael H Miller is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 09-22-2020, 10:47 AM   #8
Member
OH Osthaus
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Rick Losey's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,998
Thanks: 1,225
Thanked 6,545 Times in 2,763 Posts

Default

as a member - the best place to sell a Parker is the for sale forum in the members only
__________________
"If there is a heaven it must have thinning aspen gold, and flighting woodcock, and a bird dog" GBE
Rick Losey is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Rick Losey For Your Post:
Unread 09-23-2020, 08:21 AM   #9
Member
Paul Seiler
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

Default

I would like to get a new hammer for mine, the second gun showing. Any ideas of the best place to look, or even maybe what it would cost. I'll probably have it on a wall, but if like it to look complete.

And thank you to Michael Miller for letting me tag onto his 1891 post work my 1891. I've never really posted on a forum like this before.
Paul Seiler is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 09-23-2020, 04:18 PM   #10
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 25,233
Thanks: 23,496
Thanked 22,328 Times in 8,746 Posts

Default

Our PGCA Friend and member David Fjelline makes some pretty nice Parker hammers at a very reasonable price. He can have it engraved for you too if you wish.

Dave Fjelline 916-521-1334





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me,
a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:03 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2020, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.