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As an Old (take that any way you want) Hunter Ed Instructor, I'd call you out of having two shells in the gun. Oh, by the way, I can't imagine how a shell in the other chamber could possibly affect regulation. I suggest a lesson from a good instructor
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Generally, the front trigger/right barrel is the more open choke unless the gun is choked F/F in both barrels. There are even a few Parkers originally choked with the right barrel tighter. How is yours choked?
Trap shooting, which originally involved live birds, was always shot with both barrels at the same bird... it was in the rules - otherwise there wouldn't be a need for the second shot or barrel. My how times change! "Vintage Trap" still allows both barrels to be fired at the same bird if the first shot is ineffective. .
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Eldon, if you are shooting trap, the rule is one shell in the gun unless you are shooting doubles. It's more your POI that needs to be figured out. SxS's generally shoot flat, that's why trap guns are built to shoot high to compensate for a rising target. Trap guns off the shelf are made to shoot a 60%/40% or 70%/30% meaning 60 or 70 percent of the pattern is above your point of aim, this compensates for a rising target. When I buy a new trap gun, I go to the club and have them lock the trap to throw only a straight away from post 3. I add or subtract padding to the comb until I center the target.
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04-24-2017, 12:13 PM | #7 | ||||||
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American trap (16yds, and handicap) only allow 1 shell in the gun per target. It's a safety rule. It's been that way for as long as I can remember. American doubles of course is two shots. Bunker, Skeet, and Sporting Clays are a 2 shot game.
Copied from the ATA Rule Book: 12. A contestant shall place a live shell in his/her gun only when on a post facing the traps. In Singles and Handicap shooting he/she may place only one (1) live shell in his/her gun at a time and must remove it or the empty shell(s) before moving from one post to another. In Doubles shooting he/she may place two (2) live shells in his/her gun at a time and must remove both live or empty shells before moving from one (1) post to another. In changing from one (1) post to another, the shooter shall not walk in front of the other competitors. |
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04-24-2017, 07:38 PM | #8 | ||||||
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Inanimate Single Target Shooting 1890 American Shooting Association Rules
https://archive.org/stream/fieldcove...e/468/mode/2up Single target - One shell Double targets - Two shells. Double targets were part of the “E.C.” Inanimate Target Championship Cup held in May, 1896, but the first GAH Doubles Competition (non-exhibition) was in 1908 http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrar.../SL5117024.pdf Won by H.E. Buckwalter (Lefever) of Royersford, Pa. with 18x20. Live Bird Rules allowed 2 shots The Art of Wing Shooting: A Practical Treatise on the Use of the Shotgun William Bruce Leffingwell. 1895 http://books.google.com/books?id=e34EmE3tkfkC “Rules for Inanimate Targets” http://books.google.com/books?id=e34...kC&pg=PA167&vq “Rules for Live Bird Shooting” http://books.google.com/books?id=e34...kC&pg=PA177&vq An interesting exception was the 1901 Anglo-American Match during which the U.S. Team (mostly using Parkers) used ONE 1 1/4 oz. shell and the British could use 2 1 1/8 oz. shells. The U.S. still won. https://docs.google.com/document/pub...jEdR4j_E9l4HLw Eldon: get thee to the pattern plate, for both POI and pattern % at the distance at which you usually break targets, on those rare occasions
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Well thats what I figured. Looks like I need to start building a pattern board. In the mean time Im sticking to trap doubles. Dean both the Parker I have been shooting and the L.C. Smith are choked full/full.
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04-24-2017, 10:23 PM | #10 | ||||||
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Well, Full/Full should do the trick every time... as long as we do our part.
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