Can we make this case label?

[Jeff K.]

I have never seen that label before. It looks like the postcard.

[Bruce Day]

Copyright would have expired years ago.

[Dean Romig]

Trademarks and copyrights I believe are two different things.

But I'm always willing to be enlightened if I am wrong.



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[Setter Man]

It’s easy. First of all no one is going to come after a relatively small group of guys over a couple of dozen labels for a company that closed decades ago. And what would be their “damages.” Don’t over think this one.

I reproduced an original “shot card” from an HJ Hussey Imperial. A fellow I know has one, he sent me a photo and the exact dimensions and I took them to a commercial printer. They reproduced the card exactly, from the font to the size and weight of the paper. I ordered 2-dozen and they cost me ~ $5/each. Aged one with some tea in a spray bottle and had my MiL write in the details for my gun with a fountain pen: it’ looks great. I’ll offer the remaining cards for sale if anyone wants one.

[Southpaw]

If you attempted to use that emblem to promote a business other than Parker Bros shotguns then I think there would be an issue. If you are just copying to promote the same business and not trying to profit from it, then probably okay. BTW did the site get permission from Remington to use the same image that is at the top of this page?

Even better doe PGCA have permission from Remington in an official capacity and charge a fee to publish letters based on PGCA research of documents that are not public domain.

[OH Osthaus]

Originally Posted by Todd Poer

Even better doe PGCA have permission from Remington to publish letters based on PGCA research of documents that are not public domain.

since Remington allowed the PGCA to copy the records - i would guess that is a yes

[Dean Romig]

PGCA has Remington's express permission to use any and all Parker related materials for educational purposes only.
This permission is NOT transferrable.





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[Southpaw]

Then probably using an old marketing piece that is in its original content and used to promote educational awareness is probably also allowed or would not be unreasonably denied. Heavens know Remington is not doing very much to promote the brand. If it was not for the actions and formation of this collective group of enthusiasts there would probably be 100,000 Parker shotgun lamps.

[Victor Wasylyna]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Trademarks and copyrights I believe are two different things.

But I'm always willing to be enlightened if I am wrong.

You are correct, Dean. Trademarks protect words/symbols/etc. that identify the source of goods/services. Copyrights protect original works of expression (e.g., artwork, writings and sound recordings).

-Victor

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Todd Poer

Then probably using an old marketing piece that is in its original content and used to promote educational awareness is probably also allowed or would not be unreasonably denied. Heavens know Remington is not doing very much to promote the brand. If it was not for the actions and formation of this collective group of enthusiasts there would probably be 100,000 Parker shotgun lamps.

So, taking advantage of Remington when they're 'down' is okay?





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