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Unread 03-02-2019, 01:11 PM   #41
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Brad put a weep hole in my vhe that he lovingly restored. Makes no difference to me.
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And i will forever remember the wonderful conversations i had with Brad over my projects. RIP Brad
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It looks like a dark "plum" on my PC, is that what you all see too?






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You may be correct, Dean. I have a small computer screen and until I clicked on the picture it looked black/white. Anyway they are very pleasing to the eye.
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Blown up on my HD monitor they look black and white. On my cellphone the color of the dark is hard to pickup, but it jumps out on my pc.

I also will add I have a 12 ga 3 frame barrel from Brad with a plugged weep hole in the keel as he has mentioned doing on this forum.
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Personally, I'd rather have a professionally installed weep hole than a festival of rust between my barrels. Bachelder knows what he's doing.
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This thread, and the previous "Weep Holes" thread has me laughing, as I've barely remembered hearing so many ill conceived opinions, many expounded by real soap boxers, I might add, about a process that basically means F#$k all in practical terms. 'Didn't do this' Remington did, but 'QC must have been bad'.
Honestly I think I've known more gunsmiths who've died, and were as good, or better than most calling themselves that today, and I don't recall as big a hubub as ya'll are making this out to be.
Many years ago, I sent a set of Acme barrrels out to one who many genuflect to, and I spent six months wiping the bleeding rust out of the ejector bore. Oh, and didja notice there aren't many propellers on planes anymore? Get over yourselves.
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Put any label oe name on me that you want to Edgar, but I guess I’m just ‘old school’.

If I send a fine American classic side-by-side - that never had a weep hole indiscriminately drilled either new or if sent back to the manufacturer for re-browning - to a reputable shop for accurate RESTORATION it had better NOT have a weep hole drilled in it during “restoration.”
These are valuable guns that we take a great deal of pride in and we don’t expect shortcuts to be taken in restoring a gun to original condition.

If your comment wasn’t directed at me.... it doesn’t matter - I still feel the same way.






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No Dean, My comment wasn't directed at you, or anyone, specifically.

I do not think any gunsmith does anything, to use your term, indiscriminately, to our valued American double guns. If he feels he can refinish a barrel with a possible side effect of subsurface rust, or he can refinish it with a guarantee of no subsurface issues, I don't find an unobtrusive hole any more troubling than you adding a cute little woodcock to the trigger guard of that 16 lifter.
In over 50 years of playing with SxS guns, I've only refinished 6 barrels sets. The one I like the most are the 30" 0 frame Damascus barrels that Parker Bachelder did. Is there a weep hole? Honestly, I don't think I ever looked.
The rivet counters never had an issue with the small block chevy in my '35 Ford pickup, and I doubt they had an issue with the bondo under their paint jobs either.

FWIW, you know perfectly well if I had an issue with you, as I'm often likely to do, I'd pick up the phone and call you
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Personally, I'd rather have a professionally installed weep hole than a festival of rust between my barrels. Bachelder knows what he's doing.
The problem is these guns are 80 to 120 years old and you can have small holes between the rib and the barrel that can't be seen and during the process water will get trapped between the rib and the barrel. You might not care but you will get unseen rust in there. A weep hole can be covered up after that it will be hardly noticeable.
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