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Unread 11-05-2019, 02:40 PM   #21
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Unimportant Correction Bruce. That was my 20g VH. I hope South Dakota is productive. I'm sure it is.
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Unread 11-05-2019, 05:49 PM   #22
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While I'm sitting around hoping for someone to respond with actual measurements of their plungers, could someone please let me know where to get new ones? I'd like to get a set and though I could simply make my own I'd rather have the benefit of a trusted supplier's expertise.
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Unread 11-05-2019, 07:06 PM   #23
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I measured how far the pins extended from the breach face of my 20 gauge top lever hammer gun and came up with .085" by using a feeler gauge. I refuse to grind down the pins on this valuable gun, so 20 gauge RST shells will not be purchased by me anymore. It actually angers me that RST doesn't use top quality components since this ammo is meant to be used in valuable antique firearms, some of which are irreplaceable.
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I’m sure Morris would be glad to listen to your concerns Wayne. Maybe he can offer a sulution - he has probably heard of it before...





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Thanks Wayne, really appreciate the reply. It does seem to make sense to simply buy better components; I wonder whether anyone had suggested to them to do that because we would be willing to pay for good product? There may be a mistaken feeling that people are too price driven to support such a change. But I'm very new to this and obviously don't really know.
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There is a previous post on this site where one of our members informed the RST owner during a side by side event of this exact problem. The member stated in the post that the owner seemed to be unconcerned. It seems to me this post was about 2 years ago.
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It is my opinion that RST Classic Shotshells produces a good product, in fact one of the best on the market. The fact that a very small number of guns experience pierced primers doesn’t make their shells something less than a good product.





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Fair point. I'm always interested in how varied opinions are depending on the extent and quality (meaning, good or bad) of experience. I think I'll still follow your suggestion to talk to someone at RST, though; I've never seen an adequate substitute for actual conversation.
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I use RST products from time to time and have never had an issue. RST services a niche market (and they pay for advertising in this niche market), so many of us (me included) are happy with RST. That said, don’t let the bullies on this forum convince you that shells made from Cheddite components are quality products. For many, they are the only option.

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Case in point... Cheddite hulls do not reload well. Hulls buckle when crimping. The hulls expand when first fired to the point of causing extraction/ejector issues on the reloaded shells. And even if they happen to reload well, the hulls last half the amount of reloads as AA or STS hulls.

But... I would say it is a moot point to bring up to morris in the hopes of a component change as the vast majority of RST customers likely do not mess with reloading. I go to the shooting events and see people buying a $1,000 worth of shells by the flat to shoot all weekend and the hulls all go right in the garbage.

The choice of components are likely for two reasons. Cost and achieving the aim of the company (recipes that meet the pressure and performance demands of classic guns).
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