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01-02-2019, 09:01 AM | #14 | |||||||
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both of my Elsie Long Ranges are very full and full, but, most makers at that time would fill any reasonable order to get the sale however, i would rather see a letter than listen to a seller
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01-02-2019, 10:10 AM | #15 | |||||||
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Yep 79 or 80 yards is pushing the envelope quite a bit. It was generally acknowledged by experts that the Super-X 2-3/4" progressive load afforded an effective 5-10 yards increase over the heaviest bulk/dense smokeless powder loads, also that the extra length 3-inch/1-3/8 ounce progressive load would add to that. |
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So the "more time to judge your lead" is the time that the duck/goose flew to the 80 yard range limit? Help me understand the "more time" claim. I certainly get more distance, and birds traveling from X to Y distance equals time, but...judging lead?
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01-02-2019, 10:27 AM | #17 | ||||||
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There was a great article in the Double Gun Journal a few years ago about Long Ranges and that article suggested the 80 yard claim was a bit of a stretch. They are still classic guns
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It is interesting that Askins considered #4's a ten bore shot size. He used 6's for ducks from his 12 bores. I agree with 6's as the best duck shot size but I have gotten really good patterns with a couple of my long range 12 bore guns with size #4. Thats all I shoot at geese since 3's are no longer available. Interestingly enough, I got decent patterns with 3's and used them exclusively for long range geese when I could get that size shot. But I have never gotten patterns good enough using 2's. My maximum size shot for a 12 bore is #4's except for #1 buck for deer. My maximum for the 16 is size 6 and maximum for my 20's is 7 1/2 generally. Although I have played with a 20 bore for ducks occassionally with #6 because the gun I use patterns #6's reasonably well. If a person is interested in long range shooting, then they should spend some time at the patterning board testing different shot sizes and loads. It's the only way to know what each gun is capable of. |
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...and the added time to figure lead???
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I have made some long shots this season but no where near 80 yards.
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