Cheerios and 3/4 ounce 12ga

[Paul Harm]

Claybusters does make one - they just don't advertize it as one. It's the CB-0178-12 wad made for the 7/8oz load. I read about it in a sporting clays magazine. The 0178 wad is .060 higher than the 4100 wad. You'll have to adjust the final crimp station - two of us at my club have been useing it for about a month now. We use the same powder as we would for the 7/8oz load. I use 15grs of 700X. I have an adjustable charge bar, so I'm always messing with charges. I've noticed that any wad has shot above the wad pedals. If an 1/8oz less shot is used it comes to the top. For that reason I always load 7/8oz in a 1oz wad, or 3/4oz in a 7/8oz wad. You will notice tighter patterns with 3/4oz loads. Because of the shorter shot column there's less shot deformation at the bottom which means less fliers. In the article the man used chilled shot and fiber wads to get good patterns at skeet. Otherwise they were too tight. We're getting good breaks on 5-stand at 30 to 40yds with no chokes. Paul

[Paul Harm]

The CB-0178-12 will work. Read about it in a sporting clays magazine. Two of use have been useing it for about a month. Use the same load data as you would for 7/8oz load. I use 15grs of 700X. There is always about an extra 1/8oz of shot above the wad pedals [any wad from any manufacture ] and why I don't know. So because I use an adjustable charge bar I'm always messing with charges. I load 7/8oz in a 1oz wad, and 3/4oz in a 7/8oz wad. This way ALL the shot is protected [ which is what the wad should do in the first place ]. With 3/4oz in a 12 ga you'll notice tighter patterns. We're getting good breaks at 30 - 40yds with no chokes. It's because of the short shot column height there's less shot being deformed at the bottom, meaning less fliers. In the article the man went to chilled shot and fiber wads to get big enough patterns for skeet. Maybe anyone else going to 3/4 in a 12 will let us know about patterns they get. Paul

[J.B. Books]

Well one Cheerio is a dandy filler for 3/4 ounce 12ga wads and I have had no issues using two Cheerios with the Claybuster pink wad (1 ounce wad), HOWEVER..... Four Cheerios in an SP10 wad for 1 1/8 ounce was not as good. I shot a round of trap last night and all the shells went bang but there were several (more than is acceptable) shots that I could feel were not full power and they sounded slightly off too. I am guessing it is the voids between the multiple Cheerios not keeping things tight.

So with that said I will use fiber filler wads in my 10ga reloads and Cheerios in 12ga to shoot 3/4 ounce loads.

Paul I am using AA hulls in 12ga with the CB-0178 wad, MEC bushing 27 for 15.7 grains of Red Dot. With 3/4 ounce they need the Cheerio filler to crimp correctly.

[Paul Harm]

Pete, somehow I got a double post [ brain fart ]. I had to adjust the final crimp on my old Mec87 Grabber a couple of times with a Remington hull. Usually the Win. hull reloads the same but maybe not with only 3/4oz. I'll try and find a Win to reload. What powder you useing in the 10ga ? Paul

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Paul Harm

Pete, somehow I got a double post [ brain fart ]. I had to adjust the final crimp on my old Mec87 Grabber a couple of times with a Remington hull. Usually the Win. hull reloads the same but maybe not with only 3/4oz. I'll try and find a Win to reload. What powder you useing in the 10ga ? Paul

Paul, for clay targets I have been using 22 grains of Green Dot, Win 209, SP10, 16ga filler and 1 1/8 ounce lead shot in a federal hull.

[Paul Harm]

Thanks

[Jack Kuzepski]

Instead of using Cheerios or filler wads I've been using Polish Peanuts (the packing stuff). Just figgure out about how much you need and use an Exacto knife and cut off and place on top of shot charge. If it is a little too much it is compressable but still fills out the crimp and they weigh next to nothing so should not change internal pressure of shell by very much.

Jack Kuzepski

[Dean Romig]

You can have your "cremains" (ashes) loaded into bullets or shotgun shells and Kathy has instructions to have mine loaded into shells of various gauges so my friends can take me out shooting after I'm gone. Problem is, I'll still probably miss.... even with you aiming

But I think that would make a pretty decent filler, don't you?

[StubTwist]

Yeah, I think they would work good. Inserting your ashes into shells to have your friends & family shoot them is a sure way to "go out in a bang". A 25 straight in skeet, a few doubles pins earned, and a big fat duck shot from over 50 yards and other amazing shots that will make people talk about you for a long time to come.

[Big D]

I'm told there was a man who had his ashes put in a container in the bottom of a canvasback decoy, which was cast afloat on the Chesapeake Bay, with a brass plate asking the finders to simply cast it off again, so the man could enjoy the Bay forever