10 Gauge Magnum - Page 2

Researcher · 10-19-2011, 08:21 PM

This is the stuff --

Would be better if a two-piece box though.

Don Kaas · 10-20-2011, 08:04 AM

In the 1935 edition of the booklet, Capt. Askins tells the story of the development of the 3 1/2" Magnum 10g and modestly (not always an Askins family trait..) gives all the credit to Lou Smith and Spencer Olin (John's brother) for the development. He notes that Spencer designed the shell and load himself. The patterning tables in the piece show some very,very tight patterns. Askins, Sr, is one of my heros as he often states that 1 duck taken cleanly at 60 yards on the pass is worth 15 (the then Federal limit) taken over the decoys. I couldn't agree more (Destry disputes this philosophy vehemently preferring his ducks with wet toenails...). The Ithaca 10g Magnum is a worthy gun but even modern 1 7/8 oz non-tox loads are not the equal of the old 2 oz of hard lead in the Super X.

charlie cleveland · 10-20-2011, 10:55 AM

how did the shells and big fox work out on that trip.... charlie

Don Kaas · 10-20-2011, 01:01 PM

Well, that was Nash Buckingham from his story "Are We All Shooting Eight Gauge Guns?" when he recounts the time Mr. Hooker who was a rep for Western Cartridge Co. as well as a reknown duck call maker, came into NB's sporting goods shop in Memphis and dropped off some prototype Super X loads and a pre-production A.H. Fox HE at the behest of his boss (and later Nash's) John Olin. According to Nash, they worked out very well! So the legend of Becker, Askins, Olin and the big Fox and Super X partnership began. Below a Perry Hooker call worth about 3 Fox HEs...

charlie cleveland · 10-20-2011, 09:04 PM

beautiful call.. if it callsas good as it looks ducks should fall from the sky.....espically ifyour totin wanna those big tens loaded with the lubaloy shot... charlie

Big D · 10-20-2011, 10:21 PM

It would be my luck to have the barrel separate from the stopper while in the marsh (it's happened to most of us, I suspect) and the value would become zero pretty quickly

Rod N. Gunn · 10-21-2011, 01:16 AM

I have a 10g, G grade, 3 frame, 32," FF, 'that was hogged out to 3.5". I've "proofed" it with a bunch of modern ammo - no problems. It's fun to shoot but hell to haul around.

Don Kaas · 10-21-2011, 07:28 AM

Dear Mr. Gunn- It would behoove you to measure the barrel wall thicknesses of your re-chambered gun at the end of the chambers. Merely shooting some normal cartridges in it is not "proofing" as your use of italics shows you know. There is surprisingly little "meat' in many 3 frame 10 bore Parkers (I've owned a lot of them). Funnily enough, in Capt. Askins' Western Cartridge Co. booklet, he specifically noted the Western states that existing 10g guns should not be re-chambered for Super X 3 1/2" shells. If you want to make a Magnum out of a 3 frame have a set of modern steel barrels made for it like some good soul did to this G grade hammer gun I have

(bottom in the photo-actually "proofed" in the Liege proofhouse) Best of luck with your gun and please be careful

Austin W Hogan · 10-21-2011, 07:43 AM

The hinge pin is 2 3/4 inches from the breech. Barrels can thin quickly forward of that point.

Best, Austin