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10-16-2011, 08:48 AM
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Patrick, the majority of the orders for #3 frame guns only specify the desired weight with no mention of frame size. However, more than a few orders that resulted in #3 frame guns actually specify "2 1/2 frame". The #3 frame was known as the 2 1/2 frame by Parker Brothers insiders. I'm not sure the customer had anything to do with the request, although some customers may have been pretty savvy about Parker terminology. Yes there are fluid steel #3 frame 12 gauge guns. A poster here owns a Del Grego #3 frame VH and a local friend has a CH #3 frame Acme steel gun which was ordered at 10 pounds. I have a nice little #3 frame Vulcan barrelled 16 that was ordered at 8 3/4 pounds, lightly choked.
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10-16-2011, 09:29 AM
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I recently came across a 3 frame 12 gauge DH with 30" Titanic barrels which I foolishly did not buy. I have a 2 frame GH with heavy D2 32" barrels that is a great shooter. Ivory Beads has had a 3 frame VH for some time now with an after market BT forend.
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10-16-2011, 09:34 AM
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An 8 3/4# 16 gauge sounds like the answer to a question nobody asked
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10-16-2011, 05:52 PM
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Parker Bros. did all sorts of weird and wonderful stuff to meet customer's wishes. I have an 1889 vintage, 2-frame, GH-Grade, Damascus barrel 12-gauge that weighs a fraction of an ounce over nine pounds. The barrels are very straight and thick with a weight stamp of 5 8. My Grandfather's 1890-vintage, 3-frame, PH-Grade, Twist barrel, 30-inch, cylinder bore, 12-gauge, has barrels that swamp in very fast, and it only weighs 8 pounds 8 ounces?!? While my gun is rather muzzle heavy, Grandpa's is muzzle light with much of the weight between your hands. I kind of suspect the original purchaser of Grandpa's gun got it to shoot pumpkin balls.
Of course our all time favorite "heavy twelve" is the 6-frame, VH-Grade, the late Jack Puglisi had for sale some years ago -- 
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10-16-2011, 06:47 PM
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2 1/2 Frame
Bill; Several years ago Ron Kirby and I examined and discussed some 2 1/2 frame entries.
We concluded that the shop terminology was due to the number 3 frame being 2 1/2 inches wide, and it was probably machined in 2 1/2 jigs. I have a 3 frame 12ga 32 inch lifter that weighs 9 1/2 pounds plus. The weight is between the hands and it is very nimble. I found it a joy to shoot at both skeet and 5 stand. Best, Austin |
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10-16-2011, 08:12 PM
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The owner of the unique #6 frame 12 gauge that Jack Puglisi sold has not come forward on this site. We would like to hear from him. My fluid steel #6 frame ten gauge is well known by readers on this site and the Puglisi 12 gauge should be "outed" also.
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10-17-2011, 11:07 AM
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My main duck gun is a fluid steel DHE 12 gauge on a #3 frame with 34 inch barrels, I think it weighs about 9 1/2 pounds. A friend just picked up a similar gun that has factory long chambers and weighs a pound more than mine.
Destry
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10-17-2011, 02:11 PM
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Destry, I can't wait to see that one.
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