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Unread 01-04-2021, 12:19 AM   #11
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Show us a picture of the tiny letters.

If they are J.S. It is the stamp of John Stokes.



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I have two 16, 0 frames. A VH and a DHE. Both fluid 26". The VH is 6lb 4 oz and the DHE is 6 even. The VH was fairly easy to locate but the DHE took some legwork.
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I recently acquired my first 16 on a 0 frame. A grade 1 (PH) with 32" twist barrels in the 76k serial number range. It weighs a dainty 6 lbs 12 oz.
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I have 3 VH...one is straight grip..2 GH..one is straight grip..and 1 TL lightened frame hammer..
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I have 5 total. Two Trojans, a skeet, and a PH w/32" tubes all on the 1 frame. I have a GH with Damascus 28" tubes on a 0 frame. I also have a VHE20 / 26" obviously on the 0 frame. I like the smaller frame size in 16 or 20 for grouse/woodcock hunting.
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In the later years, anything over 200000, I seem to see far more 1-frame 16-gauges.

In continuing to look through the pictures I've saved I see tiny O, B, D, V in addition to the K and J.S. on the lug and in the space forward of the lug. And, just to be different, my Father's old 12-gauge Quality VH has a tiny 6 next to the much larger 2 frame size stamp on the lug?!?


I have noticed the same thing. I don't remember seeing any 0 frame 16's over sn 200,000. My theory is they got better at making stronger lighter weight barrels. But who knows?

The best are the 26" 0 frame 16's. I have one that is 6 pounds even and handles like my 28's
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Dean, the tiny letter I refer to is in photo #7 on the lug just forward of the 0 indicating frame size. It is a "K". "Researcher" is aware of several different ones including the JS you refer to.
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Show us a picture of the tiny letters.

If they are J.S It is the stamp of John Stokes.
I showed the J.S on the lug of hammer gun 42647 in my first post in this thread. Here it is on a hammerless 60605 --

60605 02.jpg

and hammer gun 35651 --

35651 04.jpg

Here is the tiny K on 138615 red arrow --

138615 06 V in circle.jpg
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Are these initials of one of the craftsmen? Any reason (known) they appear on some guns and not others?
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I see more O frame than 1 frame 16's. I have 4 1/2 16 Parkers. The VH, my first, is the one frame. A GH, DHE, and 16 hammer are O frame. The DHE letters at 6lbs with its 26" barrels. I have the O frame and 34" twist barrels from a 16 hammer gun--no lightening cuts in that frame.
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