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Unread 11-21-2012, 06:13 AM   #61
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Oh well, the Czar is dead and I don't feel too good myself.

I have "Not Bo Woop" but that is for another thread.
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Unread 11-21-2012, 08:01 AM   #62
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Are we sure that the maker of the gun had sinister motivation? The more important question is "Did the purchaser of the gun really think it was the Czar's gun?". Apparently, the judge in the court case thought that the purchaser was aware the gun was a fake. Can we get some reference to the court case?
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Unread 11-22-2012, 12:38 PM   #63
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All foolishness aside, the Czars gun was only second to the most sought after of the Parkers, it was probably #2 after the Invincibles. There was, and still is a mistique surrounding an American gun of finest quality built for one of the richest men in the world. He had his choice of many European guns as well as English guns, and certainly the National Museum has many of those guns that belonged to him. But the order was for the Czar and so it remains one of the "now American" treasures.
This gun was talked about in gun circles as long as I remeber, and I am 70 and started with Parker Shotguns at age 15. It is indeed a treasure, and it is the (ONLY) Czars Parker.
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There really was an American shotgun made for Czar Nikki II but it wasn't a Parker Bros --



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If memory serves, the gun was ordered as a gift for the Czar. You wonder if the Czar himself was ever even aware it existed.

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When it comes to A-1 Specials for famous folk, I'd rather have the Clark Gable A-1 or perhaps the long barrel 16- or 20-gauges made for Edwin Hedderly.
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To each his own! But the fact remains if I owned the Czars Parker, I would not argue, and it would dissapear once again. By the way it is hidden well in California!
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That's my point - he never even knew it existed. So the connection to him is is as tenuous as that of my Lincoln Gun. We have no indication at all the Czar wanted or had any awareness of the gun.

It's also reasonable to surmise that, had the Czar been presented with the Parker, he would have smiled thinly, murmured a few pleasantries, then had his gun keeper toss it in the corner with the rest of his fancy guns and never laid eyes on it again. In the back of his mind he would have made some vague note that he had had his royal rear end kissed a little by whomever had given him the gun. End of story.

My guess is the Czar preferred gifts of real substance - chests of gold, or the occasional small country.

My disappointment at the moment is I have yet to receive a single PM'd offer on Lincoln's Gun. Imagine - a Parker intended as a gift for one of America's most revered presidents. I guess this BB is not populated by the heavy hitters of the Parker world. Or maybe I need to get yet another Parker to be given to Obama?
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The gun was ordered by the Czar, or so it was published in the Meriden newspaper.
Is there provinence on the Lincoln gun? I would be interested.
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