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can screwing a floor plate too tight prevent triggers from functioning?
Unread 06-02-2015, 10:05 PM   #1
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Default can screwing a floor plate too tight prevent triggers from functioning?

Just wondering, when putting trojan back together after oiling the back trigger wouldn't function when cocking. Took it back apart couple of times and couldn't figure out issue. Put it back together without tightening floor plate screws quite so tight and now it functions great.
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The torque placed on the three floor plate screws should have no effect on trigger operation.
The torque placed on the upper and lower tang screws however, can affect trigger operation.
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If a gun is unmolested and as it left the factory, then you cannot screw things up. This is because the front tang screw is timed and also has a bushing in the stock that prevents over tightening. And the rear tang screw is dressed off flush with the tang on the top side. If it is over tightened, it would be sticking up. Also, the depth of the wood inletting control how tight the screw can be as well.

Also, the safety jacket assembly in the stock when properly fitted, touches the bottom of the upper tang and butts against a step in the wood on the bottom side, preventing any up and down movement, thus reliable safety operation. Too many times I see poorly crafted stocks with sloppy fitted safeties that move all around and guess what, the guns do not work right.

Now, if the wood it shrunk, or the inletting damaged or had been messed with, it is possible for the over tightening of the tang screws to effect the operation of the triggers and safety. But I am not talking about only 1/4 turn too tight.

Just an additional thought about the Parker tang screw bushing in the stocks. It serves two purposes. One is to hold the safety reset Rod in place when the stock is off the gun, but I believe that the primary intended purpose was to be a spacer between the upper and lower tangs. Much like a pillar would act on a rifle. However, I find that the bushing usually falls a little short of the required length on most stocks to act as a true spacer.
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Ok, thanks for the info.

The only other part I adjusted was the cocking slide, I didn't really think I moved it, but I guess it may have been out of position.

Fairly certain this gun hadn't been taken apart based on the grime and grease present in the action and all the stuff that came out with the screws. It was like I broke a seal on it or something. I was just curious if it might have been the floor plate as this trojan has the tightest fitting floor plate of any of my 4 parkers.
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This trojan has the tightest fitting floor plate of any of my 4 parkers.
At Parker Bros., there were some fine 'shoe filers'.
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The floor plate fit on a Trojan has to be perfect since there is no engraving. Any poor fit shows like a sore thumb.
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