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Al Biesen pre 64 M70 in 270
Unread 07-10-2019, 08:56 PM   #1
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Default Al Biesen pre 64 M70 in 270

I grew up hearing my grandad and uncle talk about Biesen rifles. Don't see a lot of them here in Texas it seems. My grand dad always wanted one and my uncle has flirted off and on with buying one several times, I even went with him one time to look at one while I was still in college. He had the $2000 (almost 20 years ago, it was a 257 Bob prewar m70 action too....Heck I should have bought it) in cash with him but for whatever reason just couldn't pull the trigger. I managed to get one today direct from it's original owner. This is a grail gun for me indeed.

There is quite some variation in Biesen guns. This one has his fleur de lis checkering but has the standard m70 floor plate as opposed to the Blackburn floor plate some have. It also doesn't have the fancy inlaid gold and engraving which I was neither wanting nor able to afford.

I have 3 months to pay in full.

Not very good photos but they are the ones I have.

Funny thing is I had talked to the gentleman who was selling it previously and he said he would hold it for me while I thought it over. When I called yesterday to say I wanted it, he wasn't home but his wife told me it was already sold...turns out I was who it was sold to lol.

1951 Al Biesen 270 model 70 with a 23 inch custom barrel.

I have posted this on a few other forums and am fairly surprised at the lack of interest in Biesen. While I was born after O'Connor had already died, I figured some on here would find this of interest.

To keep this Parker related Al Biesen is known to have repaired several Parkers including 2 A1 Specials.
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Unread 07-10-2019, 09:40 PM   #2
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I had a Beisen 300 H&H that was the most accurate rifle I have ever owned.I was offered more than I thought it was worth at the time and sold it.I wish I had it back.He was a real artist.You are lucky to find one in such good condition.Put a good scope on it and it will be ready to go.Good luck and thanks for sharing.
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The importance of this rifle is not lost on me. Congratulations!
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My dad loved his work but never managed to buy one. He did buy a spectacular RG Owen in 270, and I had a 7mm Mauser, consecutive serial to his. Those were Springfield actions.
Not getting that 257 must rank pretty high on your "regrets list".
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My dad loved his work but never managed to buy one. He did buy a spectacular RG Owen in 270, and I had a 7mm Mauser, consecutive serial to his. Those were Springfield actions.
Not getting that 257 must rank pretty high on your "regrets list".
Yeah.....as a college student I in no way had 2 grand lying around to get it, but I should have robbed a bank or something.
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Years ago I had a Winchester Model 21 two barrel set with both barrels being 30 in, 20 gauge. It was a Deluxe Field model and it was beautiful. It was custom stocked by Bieson. I would have to check my records but I have Roger on my brain. Not sure if they are related? Nice rifle by the way.
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Roger is Al's son.

Collecting forums are funny. I posted this on the Winchester collector forum and was politely informed they had no interest in non original guns. Funny I would think a gun customized by the man who customized Jack O'Connor's m70s would have some collector interest. But apparently not.
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They are good feeling stocks. I was vaccinated by JOC and thus the Biesen brand has appeal. I have one of the last that Al worked on according to Roger. It being a clover leaf tang 70 in 300 H&H. Similar to Parker’s you can pick out their comb nose at 50’ and there is no doubt about it . Al got the attention from JOC and in the day it was a game changer. The American Classic bolt rifle has continued to evolve, Wiebe,Fisher, Echols but Biesen gun always going to be a nice rifle. Congrats!
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Not certain I can afford it but let me know if that rifle is ever for sale.
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Nice rifle congrats. The purists in the M70 collectors look for originality just like we do in our Parkers. Your investment is rarely recouped in a custom rifle and while Al Biesen is well known it apparently adds little value for some. Is the rifle a FWT or STD?

I have sold off a lot of my M70's lately including two in 257R. The funds are gone (to another shotgun) but the rifles are also and now I find myself looking again. It's one of my favorite calibers.
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