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Unread 04-09-2018, 01:25 PM   #21
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This is my go to upland bird gun or at least it's the main one. Gunner's Gun
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Unread 04-09-2018, 01:43 PM   #22
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I absolutely love 26" bird guns in 20ga for flushed game either Mearns quail, wild Bob's or south Dakota pheasants. My current favorite is a Fox CE. For ducks my go to is a 9lb super fox or 10ga Parker. Weird me.
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nice....charlie
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I would love to try out a 34" gun on sporting clays.
Hey Todd,
I am in Las Vegas and you are more than welcome to shoot my 34" VHE on sporting clays with me.
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Hi Eldon, I would love to shoot the 34" gun. Where do you shoot at?
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Not to take anything away from the North East grouse hunters running shorter barrels, I totally get it, have done a little of that, but nothing moves on long, complicated targets, like a 32" gun.
Target gets up, flys like the dickens, gun comes to shoulder, comes from behind into the birds, smoothly establishes lead, and BANG! The bird is down.
Very hard to stop, jink or jerk the swing. Pure Cadillac.
I'm a grouse hunter but I can see the advantages of long barrels even when snap shooting at short range. I use 28" barrels on my grouse guns but wouldn't mind if they were longer. The problem is finding a light small bore gun with longer barrels and open chokes. I've never seen one. And I would never alter the original chokes of a Parker. Many folks do, but not me. I'll shoot the shorter barrels and leave Parker molestation to others.
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I shoot 24", 25", 26", 27", and 28" for grouse and woodcock and don't think I'd be comfortable shooting longer barrels for these birds... and it's got nothing to do with being in close cover and being afraid that the close growing saplings would hinder my swing... and open chokes are often overrated in my opinion. I just found out a few weeks ago that I do very well with ultra-full chokes at all sorts of SC targets. I'm beginning to wonder if many of my previous misses with open chokes may have been because of a lack of density in my patterns.






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I love to hunt grouse with my J Manton 20 ga hammer gun. It has 30" barrels and
cyl/cyl chokes. I shot this 5 bird limit this fall with it. 4 shots, 4 birds, and then the right hammer spring broke on the 5th. Spent the rest of the day with a functional left barrel only and misssed 3 in a row before getting the next. Thats Betty and Fancy in the pic
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It is a little muzzle heavy, but still a light gun. Cant wait to try my little German 16 ga hammer gun, 30' with cyl/full this fall. It weighs 5 lbs 13 oz--lighter than the 20
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I'm beginning to wonder if many of my previous misses with open chokes may have been because of a lack of density in my patterns.






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I doubt it. Most grouse shots are rather close inside 25 yards and thats a long shot where I hunt. Sometimes even 28 inch barrels are to long and I gave up on some nice 30 inch guns a while ago. A choke combination I have begun to appreciate is IC/F in either 26 or 28 inch guns. Foolishly I let a nice DH O frame 16 go that was so choked with 26 inch tubes. That still bothers me
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