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i understand wanting some form of FFL for their protection in the current environment
but not the reason for not accepting the C&R - because ammo is available - I'd guess its available for almost all C&R covered guns.
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10-01-2019, 06:05 PM | #4 | ||||||
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So why don't they state guns regardless of age will only ship to a FFL regardless if they are an antique or C&R eligible. It sure would make it less confusing for buyers.
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I agree their policy should be clearly stated and posted for all buyers and sellers to see.
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10-01-2019, 06:36 PM | #6 | ||||||
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I too have a C&R and live in NY. There is much confusion as to the meaning if the "Safe Act" relating to that license.. I have carefully studied the wording as it relates to NICS check and what is exempt. The law states that exemption exists if you have an "FFL". A C&R FFL is and FFL and qualifies. However, if a Dealer or individual wants to error on the side of caution they will not accept the C&R.
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10-01-2019, 07:04 PM | #7 | ||||||
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Rock Island was recently audited and changed their policy on picking up guns to meet the Illinois law for C&R and modern guns -- a 72 hour wait period. I also noticed that they have limited what they designate an antique when some of those guns are clearly made before 1898. They are careful to the exact minute on when you can pick up a gun. Obey the law. Can't say I blame them, but it's irritating.
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10-01-2019, 07:13 PM | #8 | ||||||
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The NY "Safe Act" won't allow a resident to receive lots of firearms which the FEDERAL laws DO permit. This underlying issue, which no one is willing to undertake, is States, passing (their version of ) laws which contradict FEDERAL law. Find a Constitutional Lawyer, whose kids are out of college, and things might change. Otherwise, you're looking at a minimum of $300K-$1M to take a case to the Supreme court.
Don't feel you are alone. You're not. I recently bought a gun from a CA Pawn shop, but had to have it shipped to an 01 FFL in CT. He was perfectly happy to accept my C&R. |
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10-01-2019, 07:35 PM | #9 | ||||||
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All of this has to hurt sales, don't you think?
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10-01-2019, 07:56 PM | #10 | ||||||
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Garry, it does hurt business for those selling below the “I don’t care” price point. If you have a C&R in a restrictive state ( CA and NY used to be the only ones) you need to find an 01 FFL who knows the law. The problem has become one where states quickly ram through a law, sponsored by legislators who, themselves, are not familiar with Federal Law ( I SO wanted to call them ignorant) Sadly, the days when politicians had the education, and balls, to get up in front of a committee, and say “ You Can’t Do That” are long gone.
As Brian says, we are an industry they are willing to throw under the bus. We raise children who are not like our fathers. We coddle and protect them until they take the path of least resistance. I genuinely fear for those of us who built our lives around a Constitution that protected what we love. Sorry, I’ll get off my well worn soap box. |
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