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12-24-2016, 04:40 PM | #3 | ||||||
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Not sure what you mean by overshot card. When roll crimping I just use a 10ga OS card. The 16ga cushion wads fit nice in a SP-10 plastic wad. I personal don't like roll crimps. There's more messing around to straightening them back out to accept wads. I use a Mec600 for reloading. If you really like roll crimps it can still be used for everything but the crimp part. At one time, with too much time on my hands I figured out how to roll crimp on the Mec . Everything had to be adjusted just right. I used a smooth start crimp that just barely started the shell inwards enough for the plunger in the final crimp station to catch it and push the extra down. The old Lee handloader would fold or roll crimp so I figured a Mec could also do it.
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12-24-2016, 06:17 PM | #4 | ||||||
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The XBP stands for Super X Black Powder, they were originally loaded as Black Powder blanks. I am sure they are standard Winchester 10ga hulls. Given the pressures involved I would feel quite confident and safe loading 19-21 grains of 700-x pushing 1 1/8 ounce of lead shot. I believe it's a load you will like. If you don't have one you want to get a hull skiver to open up and somewhat recondition the mouth of those hulls. Reloading hulls that were previously fired as a roll crimp can be a pain because it can be hard to get the wad started, the skiver helps to resolve this problem.
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12-24-2016, 09:21 PM | #5 | ||||||
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When I've loaded Rem 10ga hulls with black powder for my outhouse shoot I found that it burned at least one small hull in each hull. I'd be certain to check the Win hulls for holes.
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12-24-2016, 09:30 PM | #6 | ||||||
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if i was shooting BP in an out house- ember burns in the hulls aren't the first thing i would worry about just saying
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12-25-2016, 10:26 AM | #7 | ||||||
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Richard is right about BP - check just above the brass [ metal case ] for pin holes. You'll notice Pete is recommending a couple of grains more than the same load in a 12ga. If you don't like the recoil try going down a grain and or lightening the load to 1 1/16 or 1oz. If you get too light a load there'll be unburnt powder in the barrel. Good luck. Let us know what you settled on and how it works.
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12-25-2016, 10:31 AM | #8 | ||||||
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FYI , when doing load development , there was quit a large pressure difference with the same load in the FED and Rem hulls . Remington have higher pressures.
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12-25-2016, 09:26 PM | #9 | ||||||
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I appreciate all the information and recommendations.
I'll have to get one of those skivers so that I can touch up the mouths of those hulls. I started loading shotgun with a Lee Load-All when I started shooting Cowboy Action. When I moved up and started using a MEC, I got a Grabber. Now I have three Grabbers, a 12, a 20, and a .410. This is my first time loading for 10 Gauge and my first time user a Lee Loader. It's also my first time shooting a gun with Twist barrels. All of the shotgun load development that I have done is to make good shooting Cowboy Action loads that are low recoil, will take down steel knockdown targets and have enough pressure to get a complete burn. All the other shotgun loading that I have done, I followed the recipes in the book. I've never shot into or out of an outhouse, so I have never contemplated loads for such doings. Thanks again. |
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12-28-2016, 12:12 PM | #10 | ||||||
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I believe if we're loading in the 4 - 5 - 6000psi range, there's still room for pressure increases between hulls. JMHO
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