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The first loaders I ever had were 800B's , got them used . Later on I switched to 800C's for all four gauges . While on the 800C you could change dies I opted for 4 seperate loaders as I didn't want to take the time to switch dies etc and had an old oak conference table to bolt them all down at the same time . Having dedicated loaders can be a good thing , however is a little cost and space prohibitive .
When I shot the shotgun games the PW's were worthwhile . And without a doubt PW makes the best loader on the market . I still wouldn't mind another PW 800 in 16 gauge ! FWIW , when I bought the 800C's I got the 20 and 410 from Jim Cunnigham first at a skeet shoot in Fredricksburg VA for if memory serves $500 each BRAND NEW granted this was about 1986 . The following year I upgraded the 12 and 28 from B's to C's and I got those two from Jim Tyrell that used to run the Pro Shop at Fairfax R&G for about $525 each . By my figures those four loaders paid for themselves in one year by cost savings of my reloads to the cost of factory shells . |
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Jim Cunningham and Jim Tyrell are an important part of clay target and reloader history. Cunningham is a P-W guru and Tyrell is now the manager of Dallas Gun Club, a position about equal to running Augusta National. I don't know how he does it. Both are friends of long standing.
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06-10-2014, 09:33 PM | #15 | ||||||
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PW makes a fine press. Can't go wrong with PW or Spolar if you want a high volume progressive.
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06-12-2014, 04:23 PM | #16 | ||||||
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Man, 1000/hour is a shell every 3.6 seconds not counting refilling the primer tray or anything else. My Mec 9000H probably will cycle every 6 seconds which is plenty fast enough for me. I've used Mecs for 40 years and have no complaints. Can someone tell me why you'd want full length resizing dies - never found a use for them. I have PW 900 in 20ga sitting on a table and will sell it for $200 to anyone who likes PW.
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06-12-2014, 04:26 PM | #17 | ||||||
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Paul, please send me a PM. I think I'd like that PW 900.
Dean |
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06-12-2014, 07:16 PM | #18 | ||||||
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Dean gets first crack. Give me 2nd chance on that 20 G PW at 200 bucks.
Got the PW 600 home. I don't think it has ever been used, came with primers and shot equal to half the purchase price. Am going to set it up beside my Grabber run both see which I like best. I am a fair shade tree mechanic have kept the grabber running fine with few problems, other than the chain primer feed, easy to upgrade if I wanted to. Have a length of lamp pull chain I fixed it with every time it broke. Bill |
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Can the 12ga grabber be set up to load 2 1/2" shells.
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06-12-2014, 09:27 PM | #20 | ||||||
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Paul, it would be hard to explain the advantages of the full length resizing dies without demonstrating them. All I can tell you is that I have loaded probably a quarter of a million shells on my 800B machines with virtually no problems. The wobble of shells in a small bore MEC machine is not a problem in the 800B. Enough said. No wobble, no crushing of hulls, no wad seating problems, no accidental hitting of the crimp area with the crimper as the handle is pulled, you name it. Initial price of the 800B is or was high, but few of us bought them new.
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