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Unread 06-11-2014, 12:48 PM   #21
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I can't really do that comfortably. However, I would be very confident that 23 to 25 grains of Red Dot under a card and filler wad and 1 1/8 or 1 1/4 ounces of lead shot would be a fairly low pressure and safe load, that would be reliable for ignition. If the plastic wad were used and it fit fairly tight in the shell, I would stick to about 21 or 22 grains of Red Dot.
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Unread 06-11-2014, 05:46 PM   #22
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Thanks Bill. With all the shortages lately one has to look for alternatives. I have both rem and win hulls available. The only primers I have are win 209. How would these work out with 22 or 21grs of red dot. I have been using blue Dot.
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thell work fine wayne no problem that old 8 ga will like the red dot....charlie
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Thanks Charlie. I will give it a try when I run out of Blue dot.
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Red Dot and Blue Dot are about as far a part on the burning rate chart as two powders can be. Blue Dot with 1 1/8 ounces of shot in an eight gauge may barely ignite. Red Dot is much more proper for light shot loads in a big hole.
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My Blue Dot loads are 1 3/4oz loads Bill. 1 3/4 oz no 4 shot. 42.8grains blue dot. rem 8ga wad win 209 primer. Over shot card and roll crimp. Oh and win cases.
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Blue Dot is proper for the load you mention. Red Dot is not.
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Bill, I was trying 30grs of PB and TIGHT paper wads with 1oz of shot when I gave up. Because the brass shells are so thin I don't believe plastic wads will work - be too loose. This was in a 12ga brass Magtech shells.
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Yup, you have to fit the wads to the shell. 150 year old reloading technology. Don't need micrometers, only eyes and hands.
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