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Growing up in Conn it was all about grouse and woodcock. Great memories for sure. This print by Ripley hanging in my den is so spot on it could have been done in my favorite covert. These days living in the Midwest, my boys and I hunt preserve pheasants. And they are equally great memories, maybe better. Anytime you're able to enjoy a fall day carrying a shotgun with friends or family and a dog chasing birds is cause for celebration.
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01-09-2018, 01:34 PM | #54 | ||||||
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Sorry about that...
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01-09-2018, 06:20 PM | #55 | ||||||
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Both my dogs have been vaccinated against rattlesnake toxin. FYI it is a two step process. A primary is followed by a booster 30 days later then they get an annual booster. It is said that there can be an adverse reaction but I haven’t seen any.
My local vet had no experience with it but she got a box of ten vials from the university vet school which I paid $125 for the whole box. She keeps the box refrigerated and vaccinates the dogs without further cost when they need the shots . This is a lot less expensive than having a dog bit then rushing the dog to the vet and then all the steroids or whatever they do to combat the toxin . Plus you get some peace of mind. |
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Bruce, with one exception, a one fang bite in Hobbs nose a couple of years ago, we have still needed antivenin to treat our snakebites dogs, that WERE VACCINATED. Both of those were bad bites though, one in the meaty part of the neck of a setter, and the other in the gut of a Vizsla. Now, in my past experiences with other dogs, and prior to the vaccine, I am certain that both of my dogs would have died before we got them to the vet without the vaccine.
It’s a labor of love though, as antivenin doses Here runs around $800 a vial. The belly bitten dog took 3 vials. Yeas and yeas ago, my big Setter Rambo, took 5 vials, and two weeks of iv’s to get out of the woods! He was lucky enough to be bitten twice, one bad rattler bite, and a copperhead that bit him on the face several times as he brought the snake to me on an east Texas woodcock hunt. Rambo was not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but was still a hell of a quail finder!
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01-09-2018, 09:13 PM | #57 | ||||||
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You fellas have had way more run ins with those snakes with much worse trouble than me. I am starting to feel a lot more lucky and fortunate than I did before. It takes a big snake to produce enough venom to kill a dog. 4 to 6 foot rattler will do it, that is a lot of toxin. Understand some bites can be dry bites but would not like to roll the dice to find out. That would be like taking the pellets out of shotgun shell and getting hit with the only the wad, but you don't know if its got pellets or not.
Once saw a huge owl sitting on a branch of a big live oak. It was middle of afternoon and limb was no more than 15 feet off the ground. It was just sitting there but only had a profile from right side. Looked in his talons and it was holding a snake with its head sort of chewed off, thought it might of just been a water snake. Walked around to other side and its left eye was so swollen it looked like it was about pop out. Looked almost like a bull frogs eye. He was definitely holding a water snake on closer examination and it was a water moccasin. That must have been a mean old hungry owl to pick up a cottonmouth and eat its head off as its getting struck by the snake. I don't know if that bird lived or not but it if it did it at least probably lost its eye. Your right if you spend time in the field in some parts of the country, you better have some snake protection. The only recent death i have heard caused by a rattle snake bite happened last year here in Georgia when a guy was deer hunting. Seems he was sitting at base of tree and got bit on the arm. It was not a big snake but seems he had a heart attack. Don't know if it was caused by the venom/toxin or guy just freaked out. |
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Hey Charlie - your ice cream's melting..... Hang Up and Eat!
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