8 gauge

[6pt-Sika]

Think I have a line on a bunch of once fired Winchester 8 gauge hulls . They’ve been fired in an industrial gun . My question is , after swagging the base will these hulls make a decent folded crimp ? My reason for asking is it appears a good many of the WIN factory 8 gauge loads used a roll crimp I’m just wondering if that will give difficulties when trying to make a folded crimp ?

[edgarspencer]

I know little to nothing at all on the subject, apart from saying that the Winchester hulls given to me, thanks to Mssrs Murphy and Carr, were six point fold crimped, and the Remington hulls were roll crimped.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

I know little to nothing at all on the subject, apart from saying that the Winchester hulls given to me, thanks to Mssrs Murphy and Carr, were six point fold crimped, and the Remington hulls were roll crimped.

I suppose I could buy one of those cone shaped hull reconditioning things you chuck in a drill and bring them back to life so to speak and perhaps it would be almost like starting with virgin hulls .

[6pt-Sika]

You know I’ve used a bunch of 16 gauge hulls that were roll crimped for slugs and gotten decent folded crimps . That was with REM , WIN , Federal and Brenneke . So if they worked okay why wouldn’t the 8’s ?

[edgarspencer]

The plastic is very rigid in the Remington roll crimped hull. After seeing the reconditioner someone recently posted, I tried putting the mouth of the cases in boiling water, then quickly opening them up/ Marginally successful.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

The plastic is very rigid in the Remington roll crimped hull. After seeing the reconditioner someone recently posted, I tried putting the mouth of the cases in boiling water, then quickly opening them up/ Marginally successful.

I’m trying to keep away from the REM hulls an 8 gauge aficionado on here told me the WIN was the far easier hull to work with especially for folded crimps . Well as far as 8’s are concerned .

[charlie cleveland]

those heated hull dr s work real good even on the black Remington roll crimped hull you could roll crimp it again or6 way it....some Winchester and Remington hulls have to be trimmed about 1/4 inch the lip becomes brittle and break off...the clear window Winchester will not be clear after being fired 1 time.... charlie

[6pt-Sika]

Well it makes no difference the hulls I was after are in the UK and I’ve been informed by the seller that they’re not allowed to ship that item out the country .

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by CraigThompson

they’re not allowed to ship that item out the country .

Maybe 'they're' not allowed to, but they can be exported if the exporter has the correct license.
I saw their website also.

[Bill Murphy]

Unless you are carrying the shells all day in your pocket, why do they have to be crimped at all. Some loaders use "water glass" to seal the over shot wad. I may go to the water glass sealant because crimping is such a pain. I have no idea how to get water glass, so I guess Duco cement may be a good substitute. I always loaded my 10 gauge blanks with no crimp. 3 1/2" shell filled to the brim holds a lot of black powder. I once shot a serious overload, and my Winchester cannon did a back flip off of a wood pile. It landed on soft asphalt and was not damaged.